Its time to go Red. Pop on the rise. Noobs protected. GM Events. Put your story here!

[shimonuh]

Pras red and pras taking camps from people

[Swish]

oh shit swish you like kamen rider?

I must live under a rock. Never heard of Kamen Rider - looked it up on YouTube, looks like Kagatob's kind of thing.


Also, coming soon... a vid proving that fungi twinks aren't any good at pvp.

[jarshale]

I must live under a rock. Never heard of Kamen Rider - looked it up on YouTube, looks like Kagatob's kind of thing.


Also, coming soon... a vid proving that fungi twinks aren't any good at pvp.

Kamen Rider is what is in your sig at the moment. But yeah weaboo levels are high.

[Celestias]

Seems like the population has taken a little bit of dip lately, been noticing sub 1000 players a couple hours earlier than I used to in PST time, around 10pm.

[Slave35]

tried red with bard. every time someone zones in, micro-lag kills me while swarm kiting.

3 years later. much better computer with SSD. same thing.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

tried red with bard. every time someone zones in, micro-lag kills me while swarm kiting.

3 years later. much better computer with SSD. same thing.

Try a different class? 8)

[Swish]

Yeah the zone in thing gets everyone I think. Try an enchanter instead.

[Troubled]

tried red with bard. every time someone zones in, micro-lag kills me while swarm kiting.

3 years later. much better computer with SSD. same thing.

Didn't have that issue on my old laptop. When I upgraded, that issue happened. Moved eq to ramdisk and issue gone, but now I have to /log off when kiting and I didn't used to have to do that. /shrug

[Swish]

Didn't have that issue on my old laptop. When I upgraded, that issue happened. Moved eq to ramdisk and issue gone, but now I have to /log off when kiting and I didn't used to have to do that. /shrug

Anything to do with the recent patch(es) ?

[Buhbuh]

Can we get a blue guild to do an exodus over?

I know for some of you it's too crowded for your tastes on blue. And you get to slay people you don't like on Red.

Come be awesome.

[Swish]

City of Mist, 40-53 (some start 36-37)... be there physically, not in ooc.

Or if you really are stuck solo, try nuking down some spectres etc if your mana pool is too low for quadding.

[Baler]

http://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnDcAiNGxMh9UBy/giphy.gif

[Buhbuh]

I am trying red right now but have run into some problems lvling up, 40 wizard atm. Once i hit 35ish things started to really slow down for me as far as groups go, spend most of the night LFG and when i find something it seems to fall apart really fast or never gets off the ground before my play time is over. Is it just that people hate wizards in groups as much as they do on blue? I was thinking of rolling a more group friendly class but if its just due to low pop i would be able to accomplish even less (at least i can solo decently on my wiz). I don't think I have a bad rep or anything, I don't pull a ton of aggro and don't AFK in groups or anything like that, never had anyone pissed off at me yet.

So any tips? Is this just normal for red and should i focus on soloing to 50+? Or should i try another class?

They're not high priority classes in groups unless in The Hole (for evacs). I would try CoM, though. There's always some lowbie group at the stables. Otherwise, having your up to date quad spell helps. The spirocs in TD are pretty low hp/ good up to 52 once you get to around 46-47. They're basically never camped and have no faction/ stay dubious/ apphrehensive. You just need to stack int as high as possible.

[Swish]

Red 99 gets its own YTMND

http://p99red.ytmnd.com/

<3

[Baler]

Red 99 gets its own YTMND

http://p99red.ytmnd.com/

<3

That's awesome.

[HalflingWarrior]

City of Mist, 40-53 (some start 36-37)... be there physically, not in ooc.

Or if you really are stuck solo, try nuking down some spectres etc if your mana pool is too low for quadding.

Yea have fun xping in COM when the best in slot, Epic, develed, VP twinks login every hour to run and one shot your groups casters then zoneplug.

Red99 simply doesn't have a large enough population to support a classic everquest PvP experience; keep in ming you're looking at roughly **10%** of classic-live population on a good day.

[Champion_Standing]

Last time I went to com on my wizard we got attacked by an epic rogue. I managed to nuke him down to about 30% while he was chasing our druid around. So our monk bard and sk just run to zone and plug. I lol'd pretty hard, wish I remembered their names.

[Swish]

Yea have fun xping in COM when the best in slot, Epic, develed, VP twinks login every hour to run and one shot your groups casters then zoneplug.

Red99 simply doesn't have a large enough population to support a classic everquest PvP experience; keep in ming you're looking at roughly **10%** of classic-live population on a good day.

You sound quite mad (as usual), that's probably the accumulation of all the camp lawyering and terrible raid system on blue getting you down and making you rant.

To not ever have any pvp interaction on a pvp server is a bad thing, but I've never met an "epic, deleveled, VP twink" in CoM in all my time there - the occasional wizard/druid on the ramparts who want to cause trouble, but with a 4 level range their impact is limited and if you're at stables you can move to a spot where they can't see you... which means they either have to step off their perch (most are cowards), or log out.

The sun is always shining on red pals, like for like I'd say the community is better...give it a go ;)

[HalflingWarrior]

Last time I went to com on my wizard we got attacked by an epic rogue. I managed to nuke him down to about 30% while he was chasing our druid around. So our monk bard and sk just run to zone and plug. I lol'd pretty hard, wish I remembered their names.

Well he was solo.

Last time I played we were Xping in COM when a group of 4 epic rogues popped up and killed all our casters and told em to LNS.

They continued to return every every 60 minutes forcing a new LNS.

[Shinko]

open blue to red xfers and watch the numbers jump

[Colgate]

an entire guild just transferred over no problem

[Champion_Standing]

Well he was solo.

Last time I played we were Xping in COM when a group of 4 epic rogues popped up and killed all our casters and told em to LNS.

They continued to return every every 60 minutes forcing a new LNS.

Hey at least your group tried to stick it out, literally every group I have been in on red where PvP happened immediately fell apart.

[Crawdad]

I assume most people on p99 are 30+... How on earth are you able to be an adult and not only play EQ (king of MMO time vampires) but also work around the slack-jawed yokels who log on just to screw with you? I already don't have much time, why would I waste it doing CR?

I play Red off and on, but EQ's 1) corpsing system 2) binding system 3) tiny-ass zones make PvP miserable.

And why would you play god-awful EQ PvP when there are 2-3 Vanilla WoW servers out there? Literally better in every PvP-way.

(bump, if this is your kinda thing)

[SamwiseRed]

Well he was solo.

Last time I played we were Xping in COM when a group of 4 epic rogues popped up and killed all our casters and told em to LNS.

They continued to return every every 60 minutes forcing a new LNS.

name and shame plz

also its com, what else do you expect besides twinks and levitating casters.

[Champion_Standing]

I assume most people on p99 are 30+... How on earth are you able to be an adult and not only play EQ (king of MMO time vampires) but also work around the slack-jawed yokels who log on just to screw with you? I already don't have much time, why would I waste it doing CR?

I play Red off and on, but EQ's 1) corpsing system 2) binding system 3) tiny-ass zones make PvP miserable.

And why would you play god-awful EQ PvP when there are 2-3 Vanilla WoW servers out there? Literally better in every PvP-way.

(bump, if this is your kinda thing)

The smaller player base and increased xp rate actually mean that normal humans can actually play red and accomplish stuff in a shorter time period. Want to camp something? It's probably open. Want to log in for a couple hours after work and get a lvl or two? You can actually do that on red.

Since I came back to p99 I have been playing red and I am actually accomplishing more playing significantly less than I was on blue.

[Lionsfan616]

I assume most people on p99 are 30+... How on earth are you able to be an adult and not only play EQ (king of MMO time vampires) but also work around the slack-jawed yokels who log on just to screw with you? I already don't have much time, why would I waste it doing CR?

I play Red off and on, but EQ's 1) corpsing system 2) binding system 3) tiny-ass zones make PvP miserable.

And why would you play god-awful EQ PvP when there are 2-3 Vanilla WoW servers out there? Literally better in every PvP-way.

(bump, if this is your kinda thing)

Its the exp bonus for me. If I can jump on for an couple hours and get a level with a group after work then I feel like I did something. On blue, I would have to probably solo for awhile to maybe get a yellow bubble, if I didnt die. For some reason I like to play classes that dont make for good groups on Blue, but on Red everyone will group with anyone.

[Swish]

on Red everyone will group with anyone.

Definitely a more accepting server, free from the shackles of class discrimination, server hate speech and segregationists like some of the trolls you see in this thread.

If you've seen messages saying "try it" but haven't tried it yet, then try it ;)

At the very least if you hate it you can give an informed opinion rather than generalizing about the server being full of deleveled VP fungi epic players like someone tried to say further back.

[unleashedd]

R99 short story: needed res in OT. asked in ooc. get tell asking how much im paying. say 50pp. get told im a broke scrub and thats a shit price. guy came and ressed me anyway.

lesson of the day - don't let meaningless words ruin your actual experience. white kids call themselves *****z all the time; im sure they dont really mean it :)

[Swish]

R99 short story: needed res in OT. asked in ooc. get tell asking how much im paying. say 50pp. get told im a broke scrub and thats a shit price. guy came and ressed me anyway.

lol'd

[Rhinehouse]

i wouldnt roll on red, i tried to play there and ppl were trying to kill me while i was xping

[Buhbuh]

Once again, if you've never experienced the rush from a mass PvP fight - you haven't given Red (or Everquest PvP) a real shot. If that doesn't keep you here, I can accept your decision not to be involved.

[Oooruk]

I assume most people on p99 are 30+... How on earth are you able to be an adult and not only play EQ (king of MMO time vampires) but also work around the slack-jawed yokels who log on just to screw with you? I already don't have much time, why would I waste it doing CR?

I play Red off and on, but EQ's 1) corpsing system 2) binding system 3) tiny-ass zones make PvP miserable.

And why would you play god-awful EQ PvP when there are 2-3 Vanilla WoW servers out there? Literally better in every PvP-way.

(bump, if this is your kinda thing)

True that.

Nostalrius is awesome because:

1.) No plugging. Lulz need high leader board score. Need dick wave.

2.) Corpse camping

3.) No level restrictions on pvp

4.) You can take over entire towns and slay people as soon as they land off the bird

2 to 4 are offset by the fact that CRs are incredible easy mode.

[clacbec]

i rolled red as a necro iksar, i play it as a side game very casually, i admit there s some spirit, game gets another dimension, such thing you r hook, nothing to compare with blue

[iruinedyourday]

True that.

Nostalrius is awesome because:

1.) No plugging. Lulz need high leader board score. Need dick wave.

2.) Corpse camping

3.) No level restrictions on pvp

4.) You can take over entire towns and slay people as soon as they land off the bird

2 to 4 are offset by the fact that CRs are incredible easy mode.

if you are trying to say that a wow server is better because of any of these reasons then I dont think you understand why these servers exist.

classic eq is all that matters... nothing else.

but what is best in life?

to crush your classic enemies, to see the raid loot driven before you, and hear their lamentation on RnF

http://i.imgur.com/RdpB7Zp.gif

[Oooruk]

if you are trying to say that a wow server is better because of any of these reasons then I dont think you understand why these servers exist.

classic eq is all that matters... nothing else.

but what is best in life?

to crush your classic enemies, to see the raid loot driven before you, and hear their lamentation on RnF


I played classic wow and classic eq. Love both of them.

I was agreeing with the guy I quoted stating that wow pvp is way better. But, let's be honest, if any of us cared about pvp we wouldn't play games like eq or wow. We'd play shit like DAoC or UO.

[iruinedyourday]

I played classic wow and classic eq. Love both of them.

I was agreeing with the guy I quoted stating that wow pvp is way better. But, let's be honest, if any of us cared about pvp we wouldn't play games like eq or wow. We'd play shit like DAoC or UO.

or battlefield 1942.. as far as Pvp in EQ.. its purely for fun! :)

[Voland]

Team Fortress for PVP! Now, where should I put my sentry gun?:)

[Swish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydjnPheTIhQ

That famous recruitment vid (recently linked again in pvp rnf)

The guild is gone but the people aren't... head on over and give it a try ;)

#wouldnthappenonblue

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/okO6BAf.gif

[B4EQWASCOOL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydjnPheTIhQ

That famous recruitment vid (recently linked again in pvp rnf)

The guild is gone but the people aren't... head on over and give it a try ;)

#wouldnthappenonblue

I'm blind....

[Voland]

I wish I could un-see this video!

[LGraves]

So red has been intriguing my interest for some time now. I'm thinking it's time to start. Blue is pretty much unplayable at peak hours. ..it's either this or back to BF4 full time. So please don't hurt me ;)

[Inarog]

Red questions:

1. Is the exp bonus only for groups or is soloing faster as well?

2. What is actually lost when you are pk'd?

[Buhbuh]

This also never happens on Blue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iwp0-BDfKc&feature=youtu.be

[Uuruk]

Is that who I think it is at the end of the video making a threat?

[Buhbuh]

It is.

It was a glorious day. 21 YT's all at once lagged the server for like 3 seconds.

[Swish]

give it a try

http://p.fod4.com/p/media/323c0adf49/iswhecc9R5qK0Bs3Kr4m_American%20Shorts.gif

[Buhbuh]

GG crumbling slowly

Apps are filtering into Empire/ TMO steadily as days go by and people realize they're on a sinking ship.

TMO will be picking up the pieces here shortly, becoming the #2 guild.

They're constantly doing planar clears and helping out their guildies. They have proven leaders. They'll be Empire's primary competition in Velious.

You still have time to roll up on Red. DO IT.

[Swish]

You can save GG, apply now.

[captnamazing]

I love that this thread was started by Derubael, ultimate RMT kingpin scumlord, Founder of Deceit and Lord of the Misguided. Pls delete.

[Swish]

I love that this thread was started by Derubael, ultimate RMT kingpin scumlord, Founder of Deceit and Lord of the Misguided. Pls delete.

You got some proof? I don't see any. Fire shots on a guy who's not around to defend himself...that's pretty low, at least there was proof on Amelinda.

Derubael was a good guy, prove otherwise or stop posting shit.

[captnamazing]

You got some proof? I don't see any. Fire shots on a guy who's not around to defend himself...that's pretty low, at least there was proof on Amelinda.

Derubael was a good guy, prove otherwise or stop posting shit.

bush towers 2 ez

[Lauka]

GG crumbling slowly

Apps are filtering into Empire/ TMO steadily as days go by and people realize they're on a sinking ship.

TMO will be picking up the pieces here shortly, becoming the #2 guild.

They're constantly doing planar clears and helping out their guildies. They have proven leaders. They'll be Empire's primary competition in Velious.

You still have time to roll up on Red. DO IT.

<Thunderdome> is growing rapidly, last night we had more players online that any other guild!
Recruiting all classes/levels and emphasizing people over pixels.

[Salaryman]

This also never happens on Blue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iwp0-BDfKc&feature=youtu.be
Great video, expesicaly loving that brotha with MM shield and WURMSLAYER lookin good. represent from the streets

[Alarti0001]

You got some proof? I don't see any. Fire shots on a guy who's not around to defend himself...that's pretty low, at least there was proof on Amelinda.

Derubael was a good guy, prove otherwise or stop posting shit.

Proving it would likely get you banned in game and on the forums. Stop with the entrapment.

[Slave35]

You got some proof? I don't see any. Fire shots on a guy who's not around to defend himself...that's pretty low, at least there was proof on Amelinda.

Derubael was a good guy, prove otherwise or stop posting shit.

What happened with Amelinda? She was off-the-charts mental but I thought staff loved her.

[Swish]

What happened with Amelinda? She was off-the-charts mental but I thought staff loved her.

Paypalmelinda - there was proof on her.

Derubael has a clean whistle unless anyone can prove otherwise. Good guy, much loved GM while he was here - doesn't deserve the shit posting.

Proving it would likely get you banned in game and on the forums. Stop with the entrapment.

Because its real hard to register an account under an IP proxy and post something up. More likely is he's clean.

[Buhbuh]

bump

join red

[godbox]

Seriously don't mean this as flame but why do you guys want anyone else on red? The old raid scene on blue was a mean spirited shit show that TMO dominated hands down. Now it seems more regulated to allow casual players (something I think everyone who plays on a pirated vintage mmo should be). Soooo isn't red what the old raid scene always wanted? Like a server just for the one guild to have everything all the loot all the mobs. Or is it only satisfying if there's less "good" players to be jealous of the gear you have.
Legit curious not flame

[Humerox]

Seriously don't mean this as flame but why do you guys want anyone else on red? The old raid scene on blue was a mean spirited shit show that TMO dominated hands down. Now it seems more regulated to allow casual players (something I think everyone who plays on a pirated vintage mmo should be). Soooo isn't red what the old raid scene always wanted? Like a server just for the one guild to have everything all the loot all the mobs. Or is it only satisfying if there's less "good" players to be jealous of the gear you have.
Legit curious not flame

P99 is now legit. They've reached an agreement with Daybreak Games.

Red needs more players for Velious. There are 2 large guilds that are going to compete. <TMO> and <Empire>. There are no restrictions on content. Red is much more "blue" friendly nowadays in terms of attitude. There are several leveling guilds such as <Thunderdome>.

[godbox]

Its more the vintage game part that makes me feel people should be casual because it's about exploring or reliving old content. Are you saying you guys don't have enough people in those two guilds to down the mobs? Maybe merge or share targets. If there was really an influx of players to R99 how would that increase the quality of life for TMO and empire?

[iruinedyourday]

Velious is going to be a party p99 wont likely forget.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/Bt.jpg

[Humerox]

Its more the vintage game part that makes me feel people should be casual because it's about exploring or reliving old content. Are you saying you guys don't have enough people in those two guilds to down the mobs? Maybe merge or share targets. If there was really an influx of players to R99 how would that increase the quality of life for TMO and empire?

There's the PvP aspect. The two large guilds are competing for both members and content. Blue actually denies content to players due to the nature of the rotations. On red there's actually a much better chance to "relive" EQ in terms of content and exploration. This will extend into Velious.

Primarily, more people = advantage in terms of PvP.

I remember blue when it was sub 100 players. Red is just picking up the curve a little later.

Just sayin~

[godbox]

Fair enough. Food for thought

[Sixpence]

I'm still having a scream on Red. Stay outta my Swamp!

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/pJtZR3j.gif

[Juevento]

But if you play on red, you have to deal with TMO. We don't have that problem here.

[Swish]

But if you play on red, you have to deal with TMO. We don't have that problem here.

Always is/always was 2 guilds at the top on blue, right?

BDA don't want to be the 3rd despite having the VP keys to compete. Numerically you're more likely to have to deal with BDA socking hard in the casual tier. Avoid that, they'll be "casually hardcore" for the next 5-10 years.

Red is your best chance to see end game raiding.

[Agatha]

i dont know i think we should all stay on blue the raiding rotation here is great, the community is great, i dont know why anyone here would want to go to red.

red is full of 30 year old man child who spam ooc and it just really bad community, nope, i think im going to stay on blue and enjoy a way better community.

[Buhbuh]

But if you play on red, you have to deal with TMO. We don't have that problem here.

You just bypass it by joining Empire, the better guild.

[webrunner5]

You just bypass it by joining Empire, the better guild.
It always pays to advertise lol. :p

[Buhbuh]

For reals, though, the intricate raiding rules on blue sound like they're just going to pile on even further. It's competitive in a very strict way. I think a large majority of you are exhausted by them, and that feeling will probably only grow.

On Red, like always, PvP will solve who gets what. It's that simple. The rules in regards to PvP can be re-worked (and definitely need it in some ways), but the same precept is there - PvP solves everything.

[Swish]

There's still time to get some levels before Velious launch night.

http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/07/12/ezgif-3643001831.gif

[captnamazing]

shittiest thing about these play red ads is that they are only ever saying to play red (the pvp server) because it has better pve content than blue. at least try to sell me on how good the pvp is. oh wait

I have a 49 or something shaman on red, and I confess it was cool to have open camps and fast leveling with my pals. But the server is populated and governed by filth, and there is good reason why players come and leave as though the server was a sieve

[SamwiseRed]

ah so you couldnt hack it

later nerd

[captnamazing]

ah so you couldnt hack it

later nerd

couldn't
or
didn't want to

These are the questions that will bother philosophers late into the 30th century

[Portasaurus]

couldn't
or
didn't want to

These are the questions that will bother philosophers late into the 30th century

I am a young philosopher and I am very bothered by that question

Excuse me now while I rock back and forth in the dark until I can hear the birds chirping

[Swish]

see you on launch night :)

[Buhbuh]

shittiest thing about these play red ads is that they are only ever saying to play red (the pvp server) because it has better pve content than blue. at least try to sell me on how good the pvp is. oh wait

I have a 49 or something shaman on red, and I confess it was cool to have open camps and fast leveling with my pals. But the server is populated and governed by filth, and there is good reason why players come and leave as though the server was a sieve

have you read this thread at all?

i've said on multiple occasions, the moment you're a part of some form of mass pvp, you'll never step foot on blue again.

[DeadlyReza]

Jumped on red today for the first time, Avomon (can't remember his exact name) was advertising red in EC and I must say it caught my attention, I didn't know you could box on red and blue at the same time! :) really helps with the downtime.

Not only was that a bonus, but he also guild tagged me, buffed me and made safe passage from kaladim to kelethin, bound me, and PLed me from 1 - 6/7 just to get past the shitty levels.

I'm sure he would've gone further but I LDed and got caught in blank server select screen world :(

Anyway great first experience and will certainly use it between downtime on blue!

Another blubie converted! (Sorta)

[Nuggetman]

Reroll red. I did a few days ago. Can't go back to blue. Blue is lame. Go Red.

[hexric]

Me and my buddy making chars on red tonight. This thread got me hyped up!!!

[Swish]

now is a great time to consider giving red server a try

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/eGDd5mq.gif

[captnamazing]

have you read this thread at all?

i've said on multiple occasions, the moment you're a part of some form of mass pvp, you'll never step foot on blue again.

lol believe it or not, no i did not read all 109 pages of this desperation

[Sancta]

But the server is populated and governed by filth, and there is good reason why players come and leave as though the server was a sieve


i've said on multiple occasions, the moment you're a part of some form of mass pvp, you'll never step foot on blue again.

So the solution is to join the filth to kill the filth while being filth?

yo dawg

http://minorityfortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Xzibit.jpg

[Swish]

lol believe it or not, no i did not read all 109 pages of this desperation

That's okay, it's all in the title <3

[bolo]

have you read this thread at all?

i've said on multiple occasions, the moment you're a part of some form of mass pvp, you'll never step foot on blue again.

I don’t agree at all. Mass pvp when everybody is running around as a skeleton is just lame. Nevertheless red > blue because of the dificulty. It's like hardmode.

[hexric]

Sswwwiisshh.. Trade me some plat. Red plat for blue plat!!!

[Swish]

Sswwwiisshh.. Trade me some plat. Red plat for blue plat!!!

Once the gifaway is drawn I think I'm transferring any remaining blue plat to red Hexric... blue plat won't spend too good when the snow starts falling. Take a browse of the PvP trading pages, sometimes there's a few crazy people looking to switch to blue.

[Buhbuh]

Empire still crootin - we're very kind to clerics, offering many different types of fur coats for the harsh winterlands of Velious

56+ level requirement

Lots of zones will be opening up and will be less contested come Velious

Roll up with a group of pals, be free from twinks, etc.

[TarukShmaruk]

Would be so much better with single item loot. No drop gear is even more valuable and nobody is running around with fungi twinks because nobody wants to lose it to a DC/stupidity

[Swish]

Would be so much better with single item loot. No drop gear is even more valuable and nobody is running around with fungi twinks because nobody wants to lose it to a DC/stupidity

Heavy ganks aside, people would start bagging items mid-fight if they thought they were about to hit the dirt.

That said, item loot would be great... there's talk of it for pvp teams in the distant future :)

[Buhbuh]

Bump

Move on over


No tracking, just normal raids

[Buhbuh]

Want your life back from Variance99?

Join Red.

[stavio]

I've been meaning to give red a try, I absolutely love pvp but have never tried it in eq. I got pretty thick skin so I'm not to worried about getting rick rolled by a fungi twink. I would like to enjoy some endgame content and I hear red is where it's at. Going to roll a cleric and see how it goes.

[wts]

Wait for Teams99. Current PvP server is four years of Kunark bored Twink99.

[Swish]

Wait for Teams99. Current PvP server is four years of Kunark bored Twink99.

wait for recycle 99 if starting on blue then?

The end game for pvp on P99 at the moment is 1 server... either red rolls into teams eventually or teams rolls into red depending which is more successful. Gear is still relevant long term. I'm sure that'd happen after teams is looking twinked as well.

Start today.

[Ozzmal]

Wait for Teams99. Current PvP server is four years of Kunark bored Twink99.

I would take this with a grain of salt. Im a new player on P1999 and im pretty sure the people who want a rollback want it for reasons other than twinks. In 17 levels I got ganked by a twink one time, and I was at a very popular camp when I did.

[Atalya]

Still whoring yourself to try to make red relevant Derubael? ? Somethings never change...

[Swish]

From the same guy who wrote to Derubael:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1655856#post1655856

how about less dealing with Catherin the whiney cunt and more unbanning my account thanks

http://images.rapgenius.com/9e63d7eee19b0ee4b2ec1d564b48808e.640x428x1.jpg

[Swish]

Come and get your red Velious pixels!

PS - Smedy makes great vids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT17uFri5F0

[Swish]

^

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/ylC9NQo.gif

[Buhbuh]

BUMP

There are literally no lines in Velious. Half the time, Scout Charisa is left up out of negligence. Holgresh Elder Beads are lightly camped. Alliance necks are farmed by small groups. Coldain rings are camped by maybe a few (easy to get Tain/ Boridain).

Dragon Alley is left up a good majority of the time (also out of negligence). The biggest raiding guild forces itself to take Friday/ Saturday off out of principle.

If you think Blue is too crowded, you're right. And if you think Red is a worse alternative to the experience you're having right now on Blue, you're wrong.

Come. Bring pals. Start your own guild. Be autonomous. L2PvP. Camp whatever you want.

[Swish]

I saw last night in MycahDavith's stream (http://www.twitch.tv/mycahdavith) about the devs wanting to try a discord server. If that sounds appealing to you then now would be a good time to get some pvp practice in :)

[unleashedd]

im a 45enc now, and got ganked twice so far. both times my group avenged me. RED99 is misunderstood more than islam

[am0n]

im a 45enc now, and got ganked twice so far. both times my group avenged me. RED99 is misunderstood more than islam

Not hard, given islam isn't misunderstood.

[Buhbuh]

Eh,

The majority of time spent in Everquest is used for farming, exping or questing, and it's no different on Red.

The only difference is people are doing it for different reasons, and that's simply to have fully prepared/ built toons for PvP when battles jump off.

It's a less contested/ crowded Blue with PvP sprinkled throughout the day.

PvP just adds another interesting element to the game. You can't carry 6-8 bags, you need pumice for different reasons, crimson potions, etc. etc.

If Blue is too overcrowded for your tastes, Red is by far a better alternative. Just bring your pals with you. Getting started all over again is not that bad here.

[Drakaris]

Eh,

The majority of time spent in Everquest is used for farming, exping or questing, and it's no different on Red.

The only difference is people are doing it for different reasons, and that's simply to have fully prepared/ built toons for PvP when battles jump off.

It's a less contested/ crowded Blue with PvP sprinkled throughout the day.

PvP just adds another interesting element to the game. You can't carry 6-8 bags, you need pumice for different reasons, crimson potions, etc. etc.

If Blue is too overcrowded for your tastes, Red is by far a better alternative. Just bring your pals with you. Getting started all over again is not that bad here.

Hi Buhbuh,

Care to comment on how many end game raiding guilds there are and how diversified the end game raiding scene is compared to blue?

Also care to comment on what activities / raidschedule off peak players such as Europeans and Australasian community members can participate in?

I noticed the off-peak population on red frequently drops to double digits while blue remains in the healthy 500-600s.

I've been making a push to address the above problems red faces, if you can provide solutions as an Officer in the top raiding guild that currently holds half of Red server's total population.

[Buhbuh]

Sure.

Empire is the only high end raiding guild currently.

The sort of "culture" on Red since its inception is one large, organized guild holding down the majority of spawns, with a lot of smaller, less organized guilds that have maybe the same lofty goals without a similar follow through. But oftentimes there are smaller guilds that don't care to raid.

The opposition, or "resistance," as people like to call it, through its dozens of different iterations (with the exact same leaders every time), have failed to present any meaningful or long lasting results as a unified group of players with common goals. In essence, they're not good at being unified because they all want and prioritize different things.

My genuine opinion is that there are a lot of selfish players on Red, including myself to some degree. Many people let that selfishness get in the way of the bigger picture, though. Lots of players want to raid or contest in big, meaningful fights with lots at stake for hours on end, but unfortunately that doesn't happen very often here.

That doesn't mean there isn't the capacity for an uprising of players to contest against the bigger, more dominant guild. Many of the smaller guilds just don't have any interest in trying anymore, let alone trying in an honest way (once again, they're selfish). And that's perfectly valid to feel that way - Empire fields 80-90 right now on NToV runs. The gear spread is only going to increase as more time passes.

As for late night stuff, Australians and Euros are spread among many different factions, so the late night crews of each guild vary. Oftentimes Dragon Alley/ Scout Charisa are up during the night time and the Holgresh camp/ whole Velious zones are empty when the population is in the double digits.

There just aren't enough people online during that time to keep key or important spawns down, even when it may take minimal effort. It's actually kind of surprising. It would be an even bigger draw for Euros to swap to Red. Unfortunately, there is no Euro raiding guild. A Euro guild could certainly be created, but not with the same amount of players as one from the US.

It would be a very effective guild if they could field enough players to raid Velious during those offpeak hours. There are a lot of raid targets in Velious being left up overnight (in NToV, in WToV, Zlandicar, Sleeper's Tomb, Vindi is up very often).

Right now Gozzrem, Telkorenar, Zlandicar, Vindi and Dain (these are just off the top of my head) are all up and have been for days.

It's a good time to try Red. It can also be a bad time. It just depends on what you bring to the table.

[Drakaris]

Well versed response. Unfortunately Empire deems the few leaders that step up from time to time as 'toxic for the box' and abuses their number and gear advantage to grief the other guilds into either collapse or submission, which is what happened with Good Guys and to a lesser extent TMO.

One thing I would like to point out is that any new guild leader that has tried to step up has been bashed on the forums by elements within Empire. For example, look at the up and coming guild leader Gardur, who has recently formed 'Casual Scum'. He made a plea for his friends that went to Empire to come join his guild for fun and was bashed in his thread and is still being bashed in his guild recruitment thread.

A similar thing happened to TMO and Tiggles / Zeelot, however the straw that broke the camels back came from Apps that were swayed by <Friends> free-styled pvp-focused leadership that worked towards the easiest achievable gains with minimal PvE commitment compared to TMO's ambitious feats.

If the Red server pop is to increase, the #1 guild needs to improve their culture on the forums and in game since no one actually wants to lead with the amount of harassment that has been going on.

The only guild leader that is resilient to that kind of treatment and has persevered through every challenge faced was Nizzar, but he is permanently IP banned for leading a guild (or disrespecting staff).

As it stands the majority of players that join R99 will eventually feed into Empire, which is why the population has been steadily dropping. If players have a variety of guilds that operate at different timezones and different guild culture, they can pick and choose which guild suits their play styles. Unfortunately Red server's peak numbers generally consists of Empire's raid days where people generally only log on for raid gear, never to participate in the community until the next raid.

Empire has actively recruited ex leaders from a number of former guilds, going back to Smoke Break/Blaze , Azrael, Good Guys, Fresh and even TMO with Fael being the latest addition.

In my honest opinion if the population is to increase again, Empire, being the #1 guild that is bumping this post and attempting to appeal for people to join needs to address why people quit R99 and discourage behaviour that is sending people off the box; lets look at Eccezan and Jinger from TMO as a case study.

I'm always interested in improving R99 server population, however any action taken needs to be a 2 prong approach. Find out what is making people leave and address the issue, I guarantee once the underlying issues are resolved, you will find that R99 server population will increase on its own. Let's face it, Red just a more fun place to be than blue when people aren't being griefed off the box! You want an item camp? Fight for it and the loser can call LNS and do something else.

[Colgate]

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

[keysmash]

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

Nice attitude. Enjoy having an empty server.

[Pokesan]

i wish i had a sow sword

[JayN]

make shit classic

YT's and global chat need to go


VERY NOT CLASSIC, encourages grieving and harassment

[Drakaris]

One thing I would like to point out is that any new guild leader that has tried to step up has been bashed on the forums by elements within Empire. For example, look at the up and coming guild leader Gardur, who has recently formed 'Casual Scum'. He made a plea for his friends that went to Empire to come join his guild for fun and was bashed in his thread and is still being bashed in his guild recruitment thread.


The below quote is an example of Empire leadership posting destructive criticism, much similar to what I was complaining about regarding Red server culture. Do note also, I have attempted to provide a well-versed counter argument to Buhbuh's post unlike the below poster who has decided to make a personal attack.

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

[Buhbuh]

Well versed response. Unfortunately Empire deems the few leaders that step up from time to time as 'toxic for the box' and abuses their number and gear advantage to grief the other guilds into either collapse or submission, which is what happened with Good Guys and to a lesser extent TMO.

One thing I would like to point out is that any new guild leader that has tried to step up has been bashed on the forums by elements within Empire. For example, look at the up and coming guild leader Gardur, who has recently formed 'Casual Scum'. He made a plea for his friends that went to Empire to come join his guild for fun and was bashed in his thread and is still being bashed in his guild recruitment thread.

A similar thing happened to TMO and Tiggles / Zeelot, however the straw that broke the camels back came from Apps that were swayed by <Friends> free-styled pvp-focused leadership that worked towards the easiest achievable gains with minimal PvE commitment compared to TMO's ambitious feats.

If the Red server pop is to increase, the #1 guild needs to improve their culture on the forums and in game since no one actually wants to lead with the amount of harassment that has been going on.

The only guild leader that is resilient to that kind of treatment and has persevered through every challenge faced was Nizzar, but he is permanently IP banned for leading a guild (or disrespecting staff).

As it stands the majority of players that join R99 will eventually feed into Empire, which is why the population has been steadily dropping. If players have a variety of guilds that operate at different timezones and different guild culture, they can pick and choose which guild suits their play styles. Unfortunately Red server's peak numbers generally consists of Empire's raid days where people generally only log on for raid gear, never to participate in the community until the next raid.

Empire has actively recruited ex leaders from a number of former guilds, going back to Smoke Break/Blaze , Azrael, Good Guys, Fresh and even TMO with Fael being the latest addition.

In my honest opinion if the population is to increase again, Empire, being the #1 guild that is bumping this post and attempting to appeal for people to join needs to address why people quit R99 and discourage behaviour that is sending people off the box; lets look at Eccezan and Jinger from TMO as a case study.

I'm always interested in improving R99 server population, however any action taken needs to be a 2 prong approach. Find out what is making people leave and address the issue, I guarantee once the underlying issues are resolved, you will find that R99 server population will increase on its own. Let's face it, Red just a more fun place to be than blue when people aren't being griefed off the box! You want an item camp? Fight for it and the loser can call LNS and do something else.

The greater truth he's illuminating here is that when you're on a PvP server and you're looking to raid, you are subject to the dominant guild's leadership and what they want to see from you. If you want to move around freely or unharassed, treat the #1 guild with respect, and you'll get it in return. This is something a vast majority of people on this server have never really understood.

Good Guys, for example, was created with the expressed purpose of "destroying Empire" and then was meant to disband back into smaller guilds once the task was completed.

Things did not go well for Good Guys. Not only were they threatening our guild from their inception, but they were also comprised of and led by the same players who have threatened us and proclaimed a lot of really stupid things in the past.

That, in essence, is the problem with up and coming guilds. You cannot come onto a PvP server and try to flex and disrespect the top guild - it's not only bad form, it's a death sentence.

If there is no willingness to bend a little as a smaller guy, you're going to have a bad time.

TMO is the most recent guild to find this out. We had about a dozen of them come over from Blue and join up with us, raid, get loot, have some fun, etc. A good majority of them left our guild when TMO started up, and everything was pretty cordial. We were talking amongst ourselves about feeding TMO some dragons/ discounted epics from our guild bank that we didn't particularly want.

Then: Good Guys falls apart.

Naturally, many of the players we deemed scummy are now looking for a place to go and lots attempt to get into Empire. They're denied. Lots apply to TMO. These are the same players that we literally just worked to eradicate by annihilating Good Guys. In an effort to warn TMO, we advise them, quite strongly, not to accept these people into their guild, because accepting those people translates badly to our members as harboring the server's scum, and it not only would leave a bad taste in our mouth, but would incite a lot of grief. Those people we advised against were considered poison to guilds/ the server. TMO accepts them anyway, against our wishes.

Consequently: TMO is smashed into the dirt all day everyday for months leading up to Velious.

On day 1 of Velious, the exact group of people we advised TMO leadership not to take in as guildies all go anonymous and raid Kunark dragons while their fellow guild members/ leadership are left with 30 people in rags trying to get Derakor down. They wipe over and over.

TMO's leadership finally gets it, and they send our leadership tells, "just so you know, we kicked out all the ex- Good Guys people you hate" as if that would give them an insta-pardon.

It's a little more mafia-esque on Red than anything. Your secret goal can be to overthrow Empire, but don't ever make it known to us. That's never a good idea. If you don't have a terrible history here and want to start a guild, Empire isn't inherently mean or horrible to new up and comers. You just need to be careful who you associate with.

Empire wants a competitive guild on Red, but like with any PvP server (at least at first), it's got to be on our terms (i.e. you need to be cordial with us, take our advice, don't overstep, etc.) We tell you how it's gonna be, not the other way around. It's actually better that you do take our advice, because we would like to throw a lot of good content at the little guys that have strong faction with us. The idea is to make it so that a newer guild can build slowly, get gear, and get PvP experience to the point where they can actually hold their own. It's not about amassing bodies and attempting huge targets for massive gains (this has never worked on Red). This isn't Blue. Throwing bodies at targets is overly aggressive, and it's not only playing beyond your means, but disrespecting the #1 guild simultaneously.

Despite not seeming like it, there is a decorum you need on Red to succeed. TMO is just now starting to get it.

[am0n]

That sounds wonderful. "Want to have a good time on Red? Sure! Just learn to suck dick first."

[Eslade]

The greater truth he's illuminating here is that when you're on a PvP server and you're looking to raid, you are subject to the dominant guild's leadership and what they want to see from you. If you want to move around freely or unharassed, treat the #1 guild with respect, and you'll get it in return. This is something a vast majority of people on this server have never really understood.

Good Guys, for example, was created with the expressed purpose of "destroying Empire" and then was meant to disband back into smaller guilds once the task was completed.

Things did not go well for Good Guys. Not only were they threatening our guild from their inception, but they were also comprised of and led by the same players who have threatened us and proclaimed a lot of really stupid things in the past.

That, in essence, is the problem with up and coming guilds. You cannot come onto a PvP server and try to flex and disrespect the top guild - it's not only bad form, it's a death sentence.

If there is no willingness to bend a little as a smaller guy, you're going to have a bad time.

TMO is the most recent guild to find this out. We had about a dozen of them come over from Blue and join up with us, raid, get loot, have some fun, etc. A good majority of them left our guild when TMO started up, and everything was pretty cordial. We were talking amongst ourselves about feeding TMO some dragons/ discounted epics from our guild bank that we didn't particularly want.

Then: Good Guys falls apart.

Naturally, many of the players we deemed scummy are now looking for a place to go and lots attempt to get into Empire. They're denied. Lots apply to TMO. These are the same players that we literally just worked to eradicate by annihilating Good Guys. In an effort to warn TMO, we advise them, quite strongly, not to accept these people into their guild, because accepting those people translates badly to our members as harboring the server's scum, and it not only would leave a bad taste in our mouth, but would incite a lot of grief. Those people we advised against were considered poison to guilds/ the server. TMO accepts them anyway, against our wishes.

Consequently: TMO is smashed into the dirt all day everyday for months leading up to Velious.

On day 1 of Velious, the exact group of people we advised TMO leadership not to take in as guildies all go anonymous and raid Kunark dragons while their fellow guild members/ leadership are left with 30 people in rags trying to get Derakor down. They wipe over and over.

TMO's leadership finally gets it, and they send our leadership tells, "just so you know, we kicked out all the ex- Good Guys people you hate" as if that would give them an insta-pardon.

It's a little more mafia-esque on Red than anything. Your secret goal can be to overthrow Empire, but don't ever make it known to us. That's never a good idea. If you don't have a terrible history here and want to start a guild, Empire isn't inherently mean or horrible to new up and comers. You just need to be careful who you associate with.

Empire wants a competitive guild on Red, but like with any PvP server (at least at first), it's got to be on our terms (i.e. you need to be cordial with us, take our advice, don't overstep, etc.) We tell you how it's gonna be, not the other way around. It's actually better that you do take our advice, because we would like to throw a lot of good content at the little guys that have strong faction with us. The idea is to make it so that a newer guild can build slowly, get gear, and get PvP experience to the point where they can actually hold their own. It's not about amassing bodies and attempting huge targets for massive gains (this has never worked on Red). This isn't Blue. Throwing bodies at targets is overly aggressive, and it's not only playing beyond your means, but disrespecting the #1 guild simultaneously.

Despite not seeming like it, there is a decorum you need on Red to succeed. TMO is just now starting to get it.

Sorry but gonna add a tldr to this
bend the knee

[derpcake]

That sounds wonderful. "Want to have a good time on Red? Sure! Just learn to suck dick first."

i guess you enter the office and start sucking your employers dick?

since you obviously think that's the only way to be respectful?

whatever works for you i guess

[Swish]

What's this thread doing here?

[derpcake]

What's this thread doing here?

new threads are overrated

its not like there is anything left that hasn't been discussed so get that bumpage going

[Gimp]

What's this thread doing here?

Red thread on red forums.

[Tuljin]

TMO talked big shit and got destroyed. Its a Red server and they are bloobs.

There's ways to show respect without "sucking dick" and all TMO thought they would do is take their bullshit from Blue and come right on over and dethrone a fully geared Red guild, completely disregarding the PvP aspect of the game.

The issue probably isn't "disrepsect" as much as the fact that there was never even "respect" to begin with. Their goal was not to co-exist, grow, and compete. Their goal was to dominate and talk big shit. As was eloquently stated previously, they tried to throw warm bodies at PvE while completely disregarding PvP.

I would -almost- feel bad for TMO but Blue server put up with their shit for years. They are a bunch of arrogant assholes that shit up P99 and shit up the boards constantly. Im glad they went to Red and got annihilated. They "got what's coming to them" and I am overjoyed.

[HippoNipple]

Hi Buhbuh,

Care to comment on how many end game raiding guilds there are and how diversified the end game raiding scene is compared to blue?

Also care to comment on what activities / raidschedule off peak players such as Europeans and Australasian community members can participate in?

I noticed the off-peak population on red frequently drops to double digits while blue remains in the healthy 500-600s.

I've been making a push to address the above problems red faces, if you can provide solutions as an Officer in the top raiding guild that currently holds half of Red server's total population.

Why are you trying to bring up only negatives on the server? You have played on this server for years and loved it, obviously it wasn't all bad. If you want the other guilds to field enough members to compete why would you sabotage that by trying to keep people away from the server.

You are arguing against a guy that is trying to bring more people to the server. He is in the guild that is downing all the content they want and has no reason to care if more people come over.

[Kergan]

Drakar's rants are pretty funny. Someone who doesn't know whats gone down the last 2 years would think Empire/Holo has run the box since day one and has never let anyone compete based on those ramblings.

Except at this time last year "the resistance" was shitting all over them with 3x the numbers until the better guild with the better strategy ran them off the server (again).

Also the part where he was in every big zerg guild ever created here until he sperged out over loot and now thinks big zerg guilds are horrible for the server.

[derpcake]

Also care to comment on what activities / raidschedule off peak players such as Europeans and Australasian community members can participate in?

I've done several raids with Empire while on euro schedule man.

Stuff like PoF and most of kunark, during the afternoon or early evening (GMT+1)

Am sure this has improved with velious around, even tho I haven't logged since launch :(

Anyway, it ain't all bad really.

[Troubled]

Drakar starts posting; thread gets moved to red rnf. Lol. Need more hints that you are in fact the toxic scum?

[Malevz]

The greater truth he's illuminating here is that when you're on a PvP server and you're looking to raid, you are subject to the dominant guild's leadership and what they want to see from you. If you want to move around freely or unharassed, treat the #1 guild with respect, and you'll get it in return. This is something a vast majority of people on this server have never really understood.


A well thought-out, coherent well written post. I am shocked to find it on these boards.

[Buhbuh]

Drakar starts posting; thread gets moved to red rnf. Lol. Need more hints that you are in fact the toxic scum?

yikes, didn't even notice it was moved.

[heartbrand]

Drakar's rants are pretty funny. Someone who doesn't know whats gone down the last 2 years would think Empire/Holo has run the box since day one and has never let anyone compete based on those ramblings.

Except at this time last year "the resistance" was shitting all over them with 3x the numbers until the better guild with the better strategy ran them off the server (again).

Also the part where he was in every big zerg guild ever created here until he sperged out over loot and now thinks big zerg guilds are horrible for the server.

Ding ding ding

[Barladore]

He is in the guild that is downing all the content they want and has no reason to care if more people come over.

Lol

[Seltius]

Bottom line try the Red99 out if you like it great if you don't then its ok. Read the forums but take all of it with a grain of salt(truth) know that if you bruise easily or don't like pvp this probably isn't the place for you. Stay out of /ooc and forums then you will enjoy the server a lot more. Stay out of politics and infighting and you will leave a lot of chances on the table. Don't bow, grovel, or bend knee for/to anyone once you do that you are asking to be pushed around and abused. In the end you have to decide how you will play the game as you did when you decided who/what you wanted to be. The big difference is this game just leaves a lot more chances for do overs within reason and you can always walk away from it if it becomes too much.


'Life is like a chess match every choice has a consequence but can open new opportunities.'

[HarrisonDeliSlicer]

Put your story here!


Ok derubel tell us the story about how you were banning accounts and RMTing all the gear

that one is my fav

[Swish]

Put your story here!


Ok derubel tell us the story about how you were banning accounts and RMTing all the gear

that one is my fav

Derubael left with a clean whistle.

[Doors]

LOL they moved this thread.

[derpcake]

Put your story here!


Ok derubel tell us the story about how you were banning accounts and RMTing all the gear

that one is my fav

p sure its his favorite also

[AzzarTheGod]

Derubael left with a clean whistle.

Only because management vowed to not have another Paymelinda leak and damage the credibility and reputation of the server staff and Project99 brand that Rogean, nilbog, haynar, null, etc have dedicated a large portion of their time to.

Deru leaving with a clean whistle was a matter of national security.

National security and clean whistle. Thats a code word for coverup. Hold that down.

[Kergan]

It clearly says he retired on his own when you look at his old posts. Unless people got prof?

:)

[AzzarTheGod]

Outside of the banning of Nihilum guildbank alts for "security reasons", locking BIS accounts of "retired players" again for security reasons, and making a few bucks on the side, Derubael was actually a really great GM and one of the best staff members P99 and R99 has ever had.

Paymelinda was a terrible GM. Derubael actually put time into R99 and gave normal players sweeping reforms i.e. LNS (best thing to ever happen) and was always friendly to R99 and put his heart into his work. Deru was willing to get down and dirty into the issues and invested a lot of time into a toxic community.

Deru did enough good deeds to earn a quiet retirement either way.

[Kergan]

Derubael was pretty good until R99 gutpunched him during that GM event and buttered his brain.

He never was quite the same after.

[Xaanka]

Deru was the only GM to give a single shit about red server

[Eslade]

loved me some Derubael

[Sirban]

I'm not reading all of this

[Kergan]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164514

Hehe

Also http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1680612&postcount=141 is pretty interesting in retrospect. :)

[Farzo]

Outside of the banning of Nihilum guildbank alts for "security reasons", locking BIS accounts of "retired players" again for security reasons, and making a few bucks on the side, Derubael was actually a really great GM and one of the best staff members P99 and R99 has ever had.

If this is true, that's pretty clever.

Also if it was off banned accounts how does anyone know unless one of the staff leaked?

[Kergan]

Stuff always leaks out.

[Vanquisher]

pretty sure my accounts got stripped

[AzzarTheGod]

The greater truth he's illuminating here is that when you're on a PvP server and you're looking to raid, you are subject to the dominant guild's leadership and what they want to see from you. If you want to move around freely or unharassed, treat the #1 guild with respect, and you'll get it in return. This is something a vast majority of people on this server have never really understood.

Despite not seeming like it, there is a decorum you need on Red to succeed. TMO is just now starting to get it.

Maybe too late?

And I think all of us agree your post is a great summary on Red99 current politics. And even better, it can serve as a "how-to" guide for any new startup guilds.

A post like this maybe belongs in its own thread, or at least a thread related to surviving red99, or recent TMO drama? A reply to Drakar in a very off-topic thread and now in the rants forum is certainly not the best place. But I digress.

10/10 Either way. Definitely a message worth delivering.

[Drakaris]

Also the part where he was in every big zerg guild ever created here until he sperged out over loot and now thinks big zerg guilds are horrible for the server.

Unfortunately this is tin foil hatting and false propaganda - there has been no proof posted because I never sperged out. There is no ooc or guild chat screenshots or TS recordings. I had a private conversation with trollgate (Colgate) and he was trolling the hell out of me in tells much like he does on the forums.

[AzzarTheGod]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164514

Hehe

Also http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1680612&postcount=141 is pretty interesting in retrospect. :)

:o

If this is true, that's pretty clever.

Also if it was off banned accounts how does anyone know unless one of the staff leaked?

Many of these locked accounts and guildbanks would be stripped or locked indefinitely pending additional investigation.

"Its an on-going investigation we can't comment"

Police-state style tactics, hiding behind policy and protocol. No transparency to the process. Accounts handed back, and sometimes never handed back. Some accounts handed back butt-naked. Some guild banks permanently banned (indefinitely investigating is the same thing as a permanent ban for all intents and purposes).

I don't think we need to go over this again. Kergan's link is only a starting point. If you were in teamspeak during the Nihilum era, or saw the conversations deru was having regarding these petitions and investigations in the aftermath of the Nihilum guildbank debacle... the logs the screenshots.. Its not even spoken on. Vapo and others lived through this. Not to mention that special website we can't mention had traders verifying some interesting market findings.

Let deru sleep. This is years old. Still easily top 2 GMs of all time.

[Coffee]

welcome 2 red rnf, thread created by gm in blue chat

[Kergan]

welcome 2 red rnf, thread created by gm in blue chat

failing upwards imo

[Swish]

Derubael was pretty good until R99 gutpunched him during that GM event and buttered his brain.

He never was quite the same after.

was that the one in Dagnor's Cauldron? I was in his twitch stream for that and he was definitely rattled :(

[Kergan]

was that the one in Dagnor's Cauldron? I was in his twitch stream for that and he was definitely rattled :(

If you look back a page or so I posted a link to the whole thread about it. I wasn't around for the event but the FQ aftermath was fantastic.

[Xaanka]

Red 99 is one of the few remaining open world PvP enabled MMORPG's. The world, the community, it's factions, are all shaped by the players. They control the outcome of the day to day workings on the box, and, inevitably the future of the server as a whole. It's up to the players to make decisions - good or bad - on how they want to handle a given situation. That's the beauty of an open world PvP environment and the culture that forms around it. The freedom to choose your fate and the fate of those around you is a powerful draw to the server, and something I don't want to take away.

In the end, for better or for worse, the players will control the direction this box goes in. We're only here to provide and enforce a loose set of guidelines to help the server thrive.

Beyond that, it's up to all of you to make the server great, or watch it burn to the ground around you.

As a side note, I do appreciate everyone who's said thanks, or let me know they enjoyed the event, or made a post in defense of the event. You guys put a smile on my face today, and are the reason we do what we do.

lol wonder what path we all decided to take

[visage]

Der was such a piece of shit. So glad he got rooted out.

[JayN]

this needs to happen to red; badly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFG5sYX06aY

[Genedin]

http://i.imgur.com/ohTqDNn.png

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/ohTqDNn.png

[Goobles]

You lost the good people in the community.
Hope more ride up. Gl

[iruinedyourday]

Red 99 is one of the few remaining open world PvP enabled MMORPG's. The world, the community, it's factions, are all shaped by the players. They control the outcome of the day to day workings on the box, and, inevitably the future of the server as a whole. It's up to the players to make decisions - good or bad - on how they want to handle a given situation. That's the beauty of an open world PvP environment and the culture that forms around it. The freedom to choose your fate and the fate of those around you is a powerful draw to the server, and something I don't want to take away.

In the end, for better or for worse, the players will control the direction this box goes in. We're only here to provide and enforce a loose set of guidelines to help the server thrive.

Beyond that, it's up to all of you to make the server great, or watch it burn to the ground around you.

As a side note, I do appreciate everyone who's said thanks, or let me know they enjoyed the event, or made a post in defense of the event. You guys put a smile on my face today, and are the reason we do what we do.

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/18/13/enhanced/webdr07/anigif_enhanced-22872-1405703278-1.gif

[Xaanka]

this needs to happen to red; badly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFG5sYX06aY

wipe it clean 2016

[Tradesonred]

If there is no willingness to bend a little as a smaller guy, you're going to have a bad time.

TMO is the most recent guild to find this out. We had about a dozen of them come over from Blue and join up with us, raid, get loot, have some fun, etc. A good majority of them left our guild when TMO started up, and everything was pretty cordial. We were talking amongst ourselves about feeding TMO some dragons/ discounted epics from our guild bank that we didn't particularly want.

Then: Good Guys falls apart.

Naturally, many of the players we deemed scummy are now looking for a place to go and lots attempt to get into Empire. They're denied. Lots apply to TMO. These are the same players that we literally just worked to eradicate by annihilating Good Guys. In an effort to warn TMO, we advise them, quite strongly, not to accept these people into their guild, because accepting those people translates badly to our members as harboring the server's scum, and it not only would leave a bad taste in our mouth, but would incite a lot of grief. Those people we advised against were considered poison to guilds/ the server. TMO accepts them anyway, against our wishes.

Consequently: TMO is smashed into the dirt all day everyday for months leading up to Velious.

On day 1 of Velious, the exact group of people we advised TMO leadership not to take in as guildies all go anonymous and raid Kunark dragons while their fellow guild members/ leadership are left with 30 people in rags trying to get Derakor down. They wipe over and over.

TMO's leadership finally gets it, and they send our leadership tells, "just so you know, we kicked out all the ex- Good Guys people you hate" as if that would give them an insta-pardon.


Translation: Even though Empire has some of the worst toxics ever to grace the box on its roster, if you dont agree with excommunicating players less toxic than yours off the box forever, which in itself is representative of how toxic empire is, we will crush you with numbers and gear gap.

[Tradesonred]

InB4 anyone that tags ecoli is getting its whole guild griefed off the box

[iruinedyourday]

Translation: Even though Empire has some of the worst toxics ever to grace the box on its roster, if you dont agree with excommunicating players less toxic than yours off the box forever, which in itself is representative of how toxic empire is, we will crush you with numbers and gear gap.

https://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/8-17/cfrRH84cy6-12.png

[curtischoy]

Just started playing on red about a month ago. I like it a lot more than blue. I am actually able to find groups unlike blue, even on a hybrid.

One death to PvP so far, naked rez effects pk ftl, and have had several very fun pvp encounters. One was just my group in MM and another group in MM shit talking each other for a minute in /shout and then it was a 6v6 brawl. Quite fun.

[hexric]

Red is fun. Cept the other day I was in SolB. Minding my own business like always. Cause I never like ever pk anyone.. A cat dude named Swish came up to me and was like hey you single? I said no. He said muhah and started touching me inappropriately. I tried to zone but he was already on the other side ready to fondle me again.. So I threw my self in to the lava..


Frogy Soggy 50 rogue

[LaMort]

created a charactere named Lamort , camped 11 manastones !

end of story !

[captnamazing]

Red is fun. Cept the other day I was in SolB. Minding my own business like always. Cause I never like ever pk anyone.. A cat dude named Swish came up to me and was like hey you single? I said no. He said muhah and started touching me inappropriately. I tried to zone but he was already on the other side ready to fondle me again.. So I threw my self in to the lava..


Frogy Soggy 50 rogue

hahahahha