Game Mechanics: Ice Comet research not working with regular runes

sidi · #1 06-18-2010, 11:20 AM

Ice Comet can currently only be researched using the non-drop runes from the Staff of the Wheel quest. There are several sources online showing that you were able to use the droppable runes in classic, but Sony changed it way down the line (and even then it seemed to have been an accident). Any chance we can get this fixed? It's otherwise terribly hard for a wizard to get Ice Comet (either have to deal with leveling research and doing a really long quest, or pay out the ass and hope they can find drop off Vox).

Evorix · #2 06-18-2010, 01:31 PM

Nilborg: Removed the Ice Comet tradeskill combine involving the droppable rune of the astral and rune of frost. The only source of a droppable version of ice comet prior to the tradeskill patch of 2002 should be lady vox. The no drop runes from the Staff of the Wheel quest will still combine to create a no drop version of Ice Comet.

doacleric · #3 06-19-2010, 02:55 PM

Nilbog did a lot of research into this topic and changed the combine accordingly.

sidi · #4 06-19-2010, 03:00 PM

Thanks for the replies - I felt relatively certain I was correct, but I also imagine nilbog did a good job looking this up. I didn't realize there was a patch note about this already. Keep up the good work [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gandite · #5 06-19-2010, 03:06 PM

Can we please get the droppable runes removed from the game? Absolutely no reason they should be dropping now.

**nilbog** · #6 06-19-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we please get the droppable runes removed from the game? Absolutely no reason they should be dropping now.

Sure, we can remove them if they don't need to be there. Can you link what all they should make, and/or reference that they shouldn't exist?

If they are on a rune/page lootdrop, it will increase your chances of getting something you can use, if these don't make anything else.

Gandite · #7 06-19-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure, we can remove them if they don't need to be there. Can you link what all they should make, and/or reference that they shouldn't exist?

If they are on a rune/page lootdrop, it will increase your chances of getting something you can use, if these don't make anything else.

Rune of the astral is used in supernova so leave it. Rune of frost is only used to make Ice comet. No spell post 50/classic era requires research.

http://www.crys.org/Everquest/spells/researchwiz.asp
http://eqc.wikidot.com/wizard-spells

Also Nilbog I really am grateful for everything you do, but removing this combine was just stupid. I can deal with having to raise research though it is ultimately useless. However if the combine fails (and I've seen it happen) the player is required to do the entire staff of the wheel quest over again. I'm sorry but that is just fucking ridiculous.

**nilbog** · #8 06-19-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also Nilbog I really am grateful for everything you do, but removing this combine was just stupid. I can deal with having to raise research though it is ultimately useless. However if the combine fails (and I've seen it happen) the player is required to do the entire staff of the wheel quest over again. I'm sorry but that is just fucking ridiculous.

That's classic Everquest. It's as stupid as you want to consider it.

Did you also notice that Ice Comet does 1121 dmg here, and not 808? That's classic usage. Wizards were known for their Ice Comet.

Because its not tradeskilled from easily obtained runes prior to 2002 (past the scope of our project) doesn't make it stupid IMO.

Gandite · #9 06-19-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's classic Everquest. It's as stupid as you want to consider it.

Did you also notice that Ice Comet does 1121 dmg here, and not 808? That's classic usage. Wizards were known for their Ice Comet.

Because its not tradeskilled from easily obtained runes prior to 2002 (past the scope of our project) doesn't make it stupid IMO.

When I used Ice Comet on live it did 1100 damage as well. I'm not sure where you're getting the 808 from unless this was after my time.

Gorgetrapper · #10 06-19-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I used Ice Comet on live it did 1100 damage as well. I'm not sure where you're getting the 808 from unless this was after my time.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=732

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Fantastic Spell
Posted: May 09 2003

Tested it on a Griffon in North karana wham 1110(at 49) pretty cool.

Check out bazaar got mine for 20 plats...woot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then 2 years later...

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Nerf
Posted: Apr 15 2005 6:01pm

With the most recent patch series, SOE felt the need to nerf my biggest and best NUKE! damn them. I used to hit for around 1200+HP at LVL 52. Now I hit for 860something HP. Granted, it uses less mana and is faster and regens faster, but oh well... I don't use rend anymore. Tears of Druzil is now my favorite for one target. more damage- more mana efficient.