Game Mechanics: Dot / Feign Death Aggro

[Susanbanthony]

I realize this was "fixed" so when a PC dots an NPC and FD's the next tics don't put the PC back on the hate list. Does this now also work in reverse?

I was on my 60 necro in Dreadlands. I feigned while a spider was casting on me. His cast landed and I was dotted with Stinging Swarm. Assuming my feign would now be broken I stood up to run a bit before I could recast FD, but the spider just walked away and aggro had been cleared.

I haven't tried to reproduce this yet.

[Szeth]

There are actually some spells that will not break FD at all. For instance dispel, and like you've said a few dots.

This is however, incorrect. On p99 only a handful of spells break FD even when successful. During this era on live, afaik, it was the other way around, and there were very few spells that DIDNT break FD.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are actually some spells that will not break FD at all. For instance dispel, and like you've said a few dots.

This is however, incorrect. On p99 only a handful of spells break FD even when successful. During this era on live, afaik, it was the other way around, and there were very few spells that DIDNT break FD.

Unsuccessful casts never broke FD.

[Szeth]

Interesting im playing on a time locked SONY server from 10/28/2002 and it does. every time.

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I realize this was "fixed" so when a PC dots an NPC and FD's the next tics don't put the PC back on the hate list. Does this now also work in reverse?

I was on my 60 necro in Dreadlands. I feigned while a spider was casting on me. His cast landed and I was dotted with Stinging Swarm. Assuming my feign would now be broken I stood up to run a bit before I could recast FD, but the spider just walked away and aggro had been cleared.

I haven't tried to reproduce this yet.

Most stuff in dreadlands are roamers. Just because you FD, it doesn't mean you will clear agro. Roamers almost never lose agro.

[Szeth]

Which furthers his question of why the roamer DID wipe aggro despite dotting him.

[happyhappy]

Line of sight, I've been trying to recreate this bug all night yesterday to make a proper report.

When you dot/fd something, if you stand once the dotted mob is out of LoS he wont come after you, seemed to work 50% of the time so I'm not exactly sure.

I do know that social agro still work, so if a dotted monster goes back to his standing point, you stand drop invis out of LoS, the dotted monster will be forced to stay home while the social agroing mobs near him will just come running. Again, only worked like half the time, but if you flip flop enough it should occur.

I still don't understand the need to nerf a classic pulling strategy though.

[Szeth]

FD on p99 is not a real FD mechanic. It is a fairy land, make pulling super easy mechanic that doesn't exist.

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which furthers his question of why the roamer DID wipe aggro despite dotting him.

It's simple. He is talking about his level 60 necro. Most spiders are green con. Even if it's a roamer, FDing a green con is almost 100% wiped. Spider was out of range of when he stood back up.

If you have information with screenshots or anything else about a bug report on Feign death go for it. Making posts saying " I know this for a fact" isn't proof at all. Back it up so it can be changed with links/screenshots/logs.

As for what Happy is talking about what con are the npcs?

[happyhappy]

Blue/Light Blue