Game Mechanics: DR counters on Slows

[Treats]

In game all slows appear to have DR counters. Going by the Spdat they should be MR based and unable to be cured (dispel only).

Casters of slow spells recently given a disease component (such as Shiftless Deeds and Turgur's Insects) should no longer attract undue attention to themselves.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020424.html

Also pet healing spells should not cure disease.

Pet healing spells now have a Cure Disease effect.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020409.html

[Samuel]

Shaman slow line is MR based but should have disease counters and be curable. Afaik enchanter slow line is MR based and only dispellable.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Samuel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman slow line is MR based but should have disease counters and be curable. Afaik enchanter slow line is MR based and only dispellable.

Do you have any evidence for this? What I get from this is that all slow spells were given a Disease component just before that patch, they just gave two examples.

Here are a few of the spells from Lucy where the Disease counters were added (3-19-2002):

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...88&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...05&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...02&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...86&source=Live

[Treats]

Bump

[Pudge]

yea shaman slows are disease based. going from my rock solid memory of course.

also, nothing was ever recorded by lucy before 2002.. so the "initial entry" and info immediatly after it is what the spell was like at the time lucy went up, not "change log" events

see http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...36&source=Live for example. it's the history for the "gate" spell

[Mardur]

Classic shm/enchanter slows are all magic resist check + disease counters and curable with an appropriate cure disease spell. This is similar to how the tashan line can be cured with cure poison spells. Dispel does not work (since dispel will not touch debuffs with poison/disease counters).

Shamans first get a disease resist check slow in Luclin but that's irrelevant for this server.

[Bockscar]

As far as I know, they were made to have disease counters in a patch somewhere along the way. Hell if I remember when, but it wasn't that way from the beginning.

[Mardur]

Pretty sure we're past that point anyways. I had a main shaman during the current P99 timeline on live and I remember slows always having disease counters. There's a chance my memory may be a little rusty, but eh.

[Treats]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea shaman slows are disease based. going from my rock solid memory of course.

also, nothing was ever recorded by lucy before 2002.. so the "initial entry" and info immediatly after it is what the spell was like at the time lucy went up, not "change log" events

see http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...36&source=Live for example. it's the history for the "gate" spell

I know some of the data on Lucy is not correct pertaining to dates. In this case it seems it is. Look at the patch link on the first post:

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020424.html

Now take a look at the Lucy link for Turgur's Insects:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhist...88&source=Live

The patch notes are the EXACT same date hate was reduced on 4-24-2002 from Lucy.

2002-04-24 12:09 Added Slot 4: Decrease Hate by 200

How do you guys come to the conclusion that Slows had Disease counters previous to a patch before this when they were added. It explicitly states that they did not.

Casters of slow spells recently given a disease component (such as Shiftless Deeds and Turgur's Insects) should no longer attract undue attention to themselves.

[kanras]

Fixed, pending update.