Putting the Pieces Together

Orruar · #1 09-03-2011, 10:02 AM

So I don't pay much attention to server drama, but I was curious about the whole Uthgaard thing. This is my understanding of the situation.

Some person was supposedly testing in VP to get info ahead of time to give TR an advantage. Nevermind that this info is 10 years old and can be found in any one of a hundred places on the internet. This would really only affect 2 guilds currently, and most of us don't give a shit about their petty drama. So Uthgaard calls this person out, with or without real evidence, but in the wrong place. He makes it public instead of keeping it between the server owners. He gets called out on this bs, and rage quits because of perceived favoritism on an issue that the vast majority of the server doesn't care about. Do I have this pretty much correct?

Kruel · #2 09-03-2011, 10:15 AM

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So I don't pay much attention to server drama, but I was curious about the whole Uthgaard thing. This is my understanding of the situation.

Some person was supposedly testing in VP to get info ahead of time to give TR an advantage. Nevermind that this info is 10 years old and can be found in any one of a hundred places on the internet. This would really only affect 2 guilds currently, and most of us don't give a shit about their petty drama. So Uthgaard calls this person out, with or without real evidence, but in the wrong place. He makes it public instead of keeping it between the server owners. He gets called out on this bs, and rage quits because of perceived favoritism on an issue that the vast majority of the server doesn't care about. Do I have this pretty much correct?

wow, you are actually correct. This is R&F, your logic has no place here!

Versus · #3 09-03-2011, 11:15 AM

From what I've gathered (not much, I can't play/read boards M-F now), is that he brought the unfair advantage/abuse of Dev powers to the server ownership and they shrugged it off. He "ragequit" because they were doing nothing to uphold the integrity of the server to make it an even playing field.

Having strats/info of 11 year old content is one thing, being able to have a dedicated private server with *exact* simulations of P99 Veeshan's Peak to perfect strats/mechanics before everyone else via your guild leaders devious abuse of Dev powers is another.

Again, this is just what I've come to know in the past 12 hours.

Slathar · #4 09-03-2011, 11:23 AM

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So I don't pay much attention to server drama, but I was curious about the whole Uthgaard thing. This is my understanding of the situation.

Some person was supposedly testing in VP to get info ahead of time to give TR an advantage. Nevermind that this info is 10 years old and can be found in any one of a hundred places on the internet. This would really only affect 2 guilds currently, and most of us don't give a shit about their petty drama. So Uthgaard calls this person out, with or without real evidence, but in the wrong place. He makes it public instead of keeping it between the server owners. He gets called out on this bs, and rage quits because of perceived favoritism on an issue that the vast majority of the server doesn't care about. Do I have this pretty much correct?

This person is an applicant to TR btw

Autotune · #5 09-03-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I don't pay much attention to server drama, but I was curious about the whole Uthgaard thing. This is my understanding of the situation.

Some person was supposedly testing in VP to get info ahead of time to give TR an advantage. Nevermind that this info is 10 years old and can be found in any one of a hundred places on the internet. This would really only affect 2 guilds currently, and most of us don't give a shit about their petty drama. So Uthgaard calls this person out, with or without real evidence, but in the wrong place. He makes it public instead of keeping it between the server owners. He gets called out on this bs, and rage quits because of perceived favoritism on an issue that the vast majority of the server doesn't care about. Do I have this pretty much correct?

to answer your question. No you don't.

VP of ~10yrs ago will not =/= VP on p99.

Having the p99 VP copy would vastly benefit a guild over having an exact copy of the VP build that was on live back when it was first released.

Some people tend to forget how much is different on p99 as opposed to live "back in the day"

Supreme · #6 09-03-2011, 11:29 AM

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From what I've gathered (not much, I can't play/read boards M-F now), is that he brought the unfair advantage/abuse of Dev powers to the server ownership and they shrugged it off. He "ragequit" because they were doing nothing to uphold the integrity of the server to make it an even playing field.

Having strats/info of 11 year old content is one thing, being able to have a dedicated private server with *exact* simulations of P99 Veeshan's Peak to perfect strats/mechanics before everyone else via your guild leaders devious abuse of Dev powers is another.

Again, this is just what I've come to know in the past 12 hours.

Just a guess.

Nilbog/Rogean knew that Xzerion had a test server up to get VP ready. Xzerion used Dev powers to test the VP/Velious content. Uthgaard was not told. Uthgaard suspects Xzerion. Uthgaard calls out Xzerion before discussing with Nilbog/Rogean. Uthgaard causes drama for server admins by releasing chat logs. Server admins are in the know...uthgaard is not. Uthgaard feels he is being undermined and quits.

Just a guess.

superapan · #7 09-03-2011, 11:54 AM

Xzerion doesn't even get a two week off and 60 % xp loss. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orruar · #8 09-03-2011, 11:56 AM

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to answer your question. No you don't.

VP of ~10yrs ago will not =/= VP on p99.

Having the p99 VP copy would vastly benefit a guild over having an exact copy of the VP build that was on live back when it was first released.

Some people tend to forget how much is different on p99 as opposed to live "back in the day"

Ah, so they're making VP different here to be more challenging or something?

Orruar · #9 09-03-2011, 11:57 AM

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This person is an applicant to TR btw

I am? Shit, why didn't anyone tell me? Do I need to go buy new socks?

Autotune · #10 09-03-2011, 12:16 PM

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Ah, so they're making VP different here to be more challenging or something?

every time they release anything, there are bugs that are different. Pathing bugs, mobs not using certain abilities/raid target los issues and so forth.

Things that take time to learn and find out. However, if you have all that and have been playing with it for week/s before the actual release of VP. You have a great leg up and don't have to worry about reporting it until your competition becomes aware.

Only some times will they change things on purpose to make the game more challenging. I won't go into why these things get changed tho, most already know.