Solo self found melee shaman race?

[renegadeofunk]

I was thinking of giving this challenge a try. You can still cast but must be face tanking the mob when doing damage.

Is Troll's regen and Initiate Symbol of Innoruuk valuable enough to overcome Ogre stun resist? Is Iksar's regen+AC worth their bad stats and faction? Are there questing benefits to the good faction of Barbarian?

Interested to know what you think!

[Jimjam]

Personally, as it is ssf, I’d put more consideration into which quests, zones and items I most want to get rather than which is the winningest race.

Barbarian is pretty fun in the fact that you can easily exceed 30 without ever leaving halas/everfrost/permafrost area. Permafrost is good money and a few ok items. If you’re willing to spread to wk/qeynos for shopping that also unlocks cultural armor and pet spells for you.

Iksar are pretty good in the quest department and have the Iksar Berserker Club on their porch.

All races can easily make banded, in my experience it only takes about 100pp to get your skill high enough to brute force a combine.

Perhaps the most import thing to consider is how to get a decent weapon early on?

[kjs86z2]

If the only goal is to hit 60, prob barb to avoid the xp penalties. I doubt Troll regen, Ogre FSI, or any other racial would make up for that.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by renegadeofunk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was thinking of giving this challenge a try. You can still cast but must be face tanking the mob when doing damage.

Is Troll's regen and Initiate Symbol of Innoruuk valuable enough to overcome Ogre stun resist? Is Iksar's regen+AC worth their bad stats and faction? Are there questing benefits to the good faction of Barbarian?

Interested to know what you think!

It doesn't matter, play the one you like staring at the most IMO. I've tried Ogre they are just so damn ugly so it's a hard no for me. FSI isn't what it used to be on here after they made changes to how often mobs stun. Regen is some nice QoL while leveling but as already mentioned a Barb will prob still level faster.

If you are going to be mostly face tanking then the biggest thing will be having Slam for interrupting casters, so Barb/Troll/Ogre are gonna be really nice for that.

TLDR fashion first otherwise go Barb for faction/faster xp or Troll for regen/snare.

[eqravenprince]

99.9% of your effectiveness at facetanking will be your spells, melee might do a little. Ogre will maybe get interrupted slightly less. However with all that being said, Barbarian will level 15-20% quicker than all the other shaman races. Regen is useful at level 1-4, then again when you get the canni line, it has a very minimal affect on facetanking, I'd value AC over Regen when picking between troll and iksar when it comes to facetanking.

[cd288]

Don't Iksar get the same regen?

Larger races have better HP pools though, which I would prioritize over Iksar.

[Ciderpress]

Troll regen, like all regen, can't outpace mob damage as you gain levels. You can put a fungi on a lvl 1 and steamroll stuff on basically any class for a while, but eventually it doesn't work as mob melee damage outpaces your regen rate. I guess it depends on the specifics of the challenge, are you just trying to hit 60 in the shortest time possible? If that's the case, definitely barb for the lower penalty alone.

Also as an aside, barbs are clearly the intended race for shamans, lore-wise. The pet is a wolf, not some goofy lizard! Do you see any wolves hanging out in innothule or oggok or cab? No!

[loramin]

The wiki answers your question in more detail, but the short version is Ogre, Troll, Barbarian, Iksar ... and the even shorter version is play what looks cool to you.

[Ciderpress]

A Barb shaman in a green totemic horn helmet is like the most iconic classic EQ image ever. When I see ogres and trolls in totemic or iksars in their weird iksar armor I always squint and think is that a sk or??

Seriously though it's hard to really give a substantial answer without knowing more specifics about op's intentions, but yeah ogres are always gonna win at facetanking. You can't cast torp or canni if you're stunned.

[renegadeofunk]

Sorry yeah my only real goal is hitting 60.

Thanks for the input so far, lots to think about.