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Old 07-19-2025, 07:16 PM
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Default Caster (ench) raid resist gear?

So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

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Old 07-20-2025, 04:27 PM
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Depends on the engage. If all the shaman die you'll be going in to attempt slows on some mobs.
In fear youll be charming,and even a nearly naked enchanter is fine there since you can outrange the only ae mob in the zone.
Lots buffing,if your going to raids on an enchanter there's no reason not to have vog.
Get gift of pure thought(group c2) If yiu don't have it,saves a lot of time
Resists aren't super important for most stuff that we do,overall.
If you can hit 100+mr unbuffed you'll be okay,at least.
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Old 07-20-2025, 05:44 PM
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So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some.
You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:36 PM
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You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).
Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:38 PM
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Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?
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Old 07-21-2025, 02:54 PM
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If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?
I can raid or help with whatever when I'm on but I will not often be able to make it to most scheduled events depending on timing. I'd really like to finish my epic but I don't think it is ever happening but still more chances for it to happen guilded than... unguilded. I've adjusted my expectations accordingly and I plan to be upfront about this. Worst case scenario I'll stay solo and end up with a zlandi heart and SS MQs which I'm fine with anyway.
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Old 07-23-2025, 09:38 AM
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Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.
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Old 07-23-2025, 10:08 AM
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Simple guide to gearing a character...Full set of Skyshrine (HoT) Armor, 2x velium diamond rings, 2x velium BD bracelets, 2x Electrum Black Sapphire earrings.

Thats pretty much any toon I gear regardless of class, the main variety is shoulders, back, waist, primary, secondary, or range slots. The class page on the wiki has great lists of idea gear per era for these slots and you can target the best available/attainable items from there.
Waist or back are usually haste dump slots too (probably not for enchanter admittedly) so that is another 1 less slot to worry about too!
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Old 07-21-2025, 03:28 PM
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Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.
I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me, back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.
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Old 07-21-2025, 05:14 PM
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I don't mean this to sound condescending, but you sound to me like every other non-raider I've ever known ... myself included. We all imagine raiding to be bigger and harder than it really is.

(Proof: I farmed plat for Loramin's epic, and then asked the forum to help me, back in 2015, so I wouldn't have to join a guild: that's how anti-raiding I was. Now I laugh at how naive I was.)

I guarantee that if you join a guild and start raiding, you will quickly realize that you were a fool for ever paying for anything you can get by just showing up to a raid. Why spend X hours to acquire something that you can get in a fraction of X? It makes no sense.
I've raided a fair bit back in 2001-2003 on live. I assume guilds in general would be a lot better at it today.

My only point is if I wanted a frostweaver embroidered cloak, it would be much faster for me to farm 18k than be there for the next dain kill assuming no one wants one and it drops first try. But point taken, unguilded I have zero opportunity to loot one... or all the no drop raid gear.
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