Do you agree with the message of this video?

[SorenVC]

I watched some videos that are similar to this one and I do like what it says. I agree. You can't force things in my opinion. If you force things, it usually ends up bad.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Like trying to force a fart and shitting yourself instead?

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like trying to force a fart and shitting yourself instead?

I meant forcing love or a result and making it worse.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

In regards to the message, it neglects to mention that trading hustle for short term peace means long term chaos though

An easy example would be if you had a minor medical symptom bothering you. It takes effort to make an appointment with a doctor (and I am not a fan of doctors), and maybe the doctor might recommend a medication with some unpleasant side effects you would have to deal with for a few weeks

So instead, you blow it off. And find immediate peace, as you don’t have to deal with any of that. But the issue festers inside your body, and then months or years down the road you now have this huge medical symptom that is so unpleasant it makes your life a living hell. And now the only fix is surgery and a long road to recovery

So in retrospect, would it have been worth it to suffer a bit of temporary discomfort and effort to prevent far greater suffering in the long run?

This is just used as an example, I’m actually the type of person to avoid going to the doctor lol

[SorenVC]

For me hustle is more like the Andrew Tate hustle, he kinda made the word popular, like creating a business on your own and making $€... That is hustle for me. But I am way too mentally ill, retarded, autistic, stupid, lazy and sedated from Olanzapine to bother looking into creating a business. I'd rather take my meds all life and work a 7-4 job. Cause that's what we work in Germany, not 9-5 but 7-4, usually.

[SorenVC]

It doesn't take effort at all to make an appointment with a doctor imo. Just one phone call. Buddha was about letting go of your desires and just be happy, I guess. At least not forcing things and letting it flow...

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

To play devil’s advocate and argue the other side of the coin: there is a common saying that “the weight of discipline is far less than the weight of regret

I consider myself a disciplined person, willing and able to hustle and suffer in the short term for long term benefits. But I never completely agreed with that quote

Regret is a state of mind. It is possible to banish those thoughts and avoid them like any other negative thought, so long as you have something else to focus on. I think that this becomes harder when someone is continually reminded of things they regret, like seeing happy couples or successful people. But even then, it doesn’t change the fact that living in a mindset of regret is still a choice, and we can always choose to think differently

But I still choose discipline, in some areas anyway, not in a wealth-seeking sort of way

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by NopeNopeNopeNope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To play devil’s advocate and argue the other side of the coin: there is a common saying that “the weight of discipline is far less than the weight of regret

I consider myself a disciplined person, willing and able to hustle and suffer in the short term for long term benefits. But I never completely agreed with that quote

Regret is a state of mind. It is possible to banish those thoughts and avoid them like any other negative thought, so long as you have something else to focus on. I think that this becomes harder when someone is continually reminded of things they regret, like seeing happy couples or successful people. But even then, it doesn’t change the fact that living in a mindset of regret is still a choice, and we can always choose to think differently

But I still choose discipline, in some areas anyway, not in a wealth-seeking sort of way

You will be disciplined as long as you're not sent into a psychiatry for a problem, be labeled with any mental illness and then take anti-psychotics that mess with your brain and give you random headache. I don't really understand this free will / discipline above all else thing. These people are beginning to sound like the Marquis de Gramont in the new movie and he died lol.

Literally to John Wick accepting peace and not shooting the blind guy. I thought those discipline highly confident people were way too sure of themselves and the opposite would be humility. They just didn't get humbled enough although I agree that I wouldn't wanna be a fat Buddha. One steam friend of mine said "people always do what is most comfortable for them" and it makes more sense to me than free will or whatever.

[magnetaress]

The only certain way out is for humanity to end either through change or extinction.

Not to worry though. This is inevitable and inescapable. Thankfully everything as Buddha would say is temporary. Just have gratitude for how temporary it all really is.

[SorenVC]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only certain way out is for humanity to end either through change or extinction.

Not to worry though. This is inevitable and inescapable. Thankfully everything as Buddha would say is temporary. Just have gratitude for how temporary it all really is.

But if humans go extinct, do the other animals live on? How would this be happening and what for? The animals have as much a meaningless existence as humans. The lions just hunting zebras for eternity. Doesn't really sound like heaven to me.

We don't have the Universal Union Combine on earth (yet).