Warhammers in Ranged Slots?

[Datum7113]

Am I missing something about warhammers? I have one sitting in my Ranged slot, but I can't throw it. Why is that? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[loramin]

What class are you?

[Datum7113]

I'm a Ranger

[loramin]

Try moving it to your ammo slot instead.

[Jimjam]

The range on the weapon is less than the minimum distance you must be fromm an enemy to do a ranged attack?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It has been ages since I have used throwing weapons, so I may be wrong. Similar to how you need a bow in your ranged slot AND arrows in your ammo slot to do archery, I believe you need a throwing weapon in both the ranged AND ammo slot to do throwing.

So you need at least two hammers. The hammer in the ranged slot tells the game what type of ammo to use (You wouldn't throw your bow if you were out of ammo), and the ammo slot has the ammo you want to consume, in this case another hammer.

I assume both items have to be the same for throwing (unlike archery), like you couldn't have a rusty hammer in ranged and a shattering hammer in ammo, but I could be wrong there. I haven't actually tried that. I generally used shurikens for throwing, so they were both the same item. I remember putting them in both the ranged and ammo slots to throw.

EDIT: Looking at https://wiki.project1999.com/Shattering_Hammer , which is summoned from the Bracer of Hammerfal, that hammer can be placed in both ranged and ammo slots, with a range of 55. So they can be thrown.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Rusty_Warhammer can only be placed in the ranged slot, with a range of 40, but not the ammo slot. My guess is you can't throw the rusty hammers because you can't put them in the ammo slot too, unless the wiki is wrong about which slots it can go in. Maybe it is just a fluke that it has a ranged value? I would be suprised if throwing worked like archery, where the range calculation uses both the bows range and the arrows range combined.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It has been ages since I have used throwing weapons, so I may be wrong. Similar to how you need a bow in your ranged slot AND arrows in your ammo slot to do archery, I believe you need a throwing weapon in both the ranged AND ammo slot to do throwing.

So you need at least two hammers. The hammer in the ranged slot tells the game what type of ammo to use (You wouldn't throw your bow if you were out of ammo), and the ammo slot has the ammo you want to consume, in this case another hammer.

I assume both items have to be the same for throwing (unlike archery), like you couldn't have a rusty hammer in ranged and a bronze hammer in ammo, but I could be wrong there. I haven't actually tried that. I generally used shurikens for throwing, so they were both the same item. I remember putting them in both the ranged and ammo slots to throw.

I can confirm this is not the case. My monk carries a Totem of the Warrior Spirit in his range, and I need to only click a single Shattering Hammer into range slow to throw (with nothing in ammo because 1.0wt).

Research is showing that https://wiki.project1999.com/Rusty_Warhammer is range-slot equippable, but doesn't have a range attached to the item, IE: 55 for a shattering hammer, 60 for a shuriken, etc. With no range value (distance it can be thrown) for the weapon, it cannot be thrown. So the game is treating your warhammer like a range slot item for stats....except it has no stats!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by greenspectre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can confirm this is not the case. My monk carries a Totem of the Warrior Spirit in his range, and I need to only click a single Shattering Hammer into range slow to throw (with nothing in ammo because 1.0wt).

Research is showing that https://wiki.project1999.com/Rusty_Warhammer is range-slot equippable, but doesn't have a range attached to the item, IE: 55 for a shattering hammer, 60 for a shuriken, etc. With no range value (distance it can be thrown) for the weapon, it cannot be thrown. So the game is treating your warhammer like a range slot item for stats....except it has no stats!

Ah thanks for confirming that! I guess the ranged value for the rusty warhammer on the wiki is wrong. I can't remember if it shows the ranged value in game or not.

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I know how to tell if a weapon can be thrown. If you look at the wiki for https://wiki.project1999.com/Shattering_Hammer , you can see the skill says "throwingv2". My guess is only weapons with the "throwingv1" or "throwingv2" skills can be thrown, which makes sense. That is why you can't throw your https://wiki.project1999.com/Barbarian_Hunting_Spear for example, because it uses the piercing skill. Same with the rusty warhammer, which uses 1 hand blunt. My guess is if rusty warhammer does have a ranged value on it in game, that is just a bug. It may be intentionally done, because P99 likes to include the classic misspellings, the pending lore on Shralok pack, etc.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I probably should have just googled it hehe:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=147427

While I have never done it myself, people there say you can throw a runed bone fork, and that isn't a throwingv1 or v2 skill, so that throws out my theories. They seem to think rusty hammer has too short of a range, as Jimjam suggests. The thread is from 2014 though, so no idea if any changes have occured since then. I have only used throwing weapons a handful of times on a baby monk on P99, so I couldn't say.

[greenspectre]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that throws out my theories.

Dude, you are my hero.

Also I'm an idiot, Rusty Warhammer shows 40 range and I missed it. I think your theory about it being 1h blunt preventing you from throwing is more correct. Though I don't have a Rune Boned Fork to throw to try to prove that wrong.