All 50 states have certified the election.

[Gravydoo II]

WV was the last one, earlier today.

So.. the kraken died.

[douglas1999]

MI, PA, GA and NV all broke their own election laws by arbitrarily changing them at the last minute without amending their state constitutions, which is the proper procedure. There's a lawsuit from the texas AG regarding this, alleging that violating your own state election laws while the rest of the states followed theirs disenfranchises the voters of those other states. It's a fair legal argument. Just sayin!

I'm 99% sure joe biden will be the next president, and I'm 99% sure he will be terrible. Just as long as we get to stick it to that trump guy though! Great perspective.

[Gravydoo II]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MI, PA, GA and NV all broke their own election laws by arbitrarily changing them at the last minute without amending their state constitutions, which is the proper procedure. There's a lawsuit from the texas AG regarding this, alleging that violating your own state election laws while the rest of the states followed theirs disenfranchises the voters of those other states. It's a fair legal argument. Just sayin!

I'm 99% sure joe biden will be the next president, and I'm 99% sure he will be terrible. Just as long as we get to stick it to that trump guy though! Great perspective.

States are allowed to change their own election laws. Its in the constitution. You might want to read it. States have rights. Did you forget?? No state can tell another state how to run an election. One state cannot tell another state how/when/why to change their laws. The state changing their laws is only accountable to the citizens of that state, concerning this subject. So, yea. Thats a lie. They didnt break their own elections laws. You heard the lie incorrectly. The lawsuit is about CHANGING the laws, not breaking them.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

States are allowed to change their own election laws. Its in the constitution. You might want to read it. States have rights. Did you forget?? No state can tell another state how to run an election. One state cannot tell another state how/when/why to change their laws. The state changing their laws is only accountable to the citizens of that state, concerning this subject. So, yea. Thats a lie. They didnt break their own elections laws. You heard the lie incorrectly. The lawsuit is about CHANGING the laws, not breaking them.

There are *state* constitutions, and the federal constitution. It's a simple legal challenge. The argument is that they violated their own state constitutions by imposing last minute changes to voting regulation without amending their state constitution first.

If one state makes a change that is illegal by their own state laws, and other states do not, it's perfectly reasonable to argue that the votes of citizens within the states that did not change any rules were disenfranchised by the states who did, because the presidential race affects the entire union, not just individual states.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

States are allowed to change their own election laws. Its in the constitution. You might want to read it. States have rights. Did you forget?? No state can tell another state how to run an election. One state cannot tell another state how/when/why to change their laws. The state changing their laws is only accountable to the citizens of that state, concerning this subject. So, yea. Thats a lie. They didnt break their own elections laws. You heard the lie incorrectly. The lawsuit is about CHANGING the laws, not breaking them.

I am a PA citizen.

the manner in which they changed their laws is the issue, not that they broke the laws that they changed.

In PA at the state level, in order to change/alter existing voter law, it must be done so through the state assembly as an amendment. Having not allowed this to occur, a review must occur to determine the constitionality of the unprecedented voter law changes.

If its found that the voter law changes were unconstitutional, then that opens up like hundreds of avenues to prove that hundreds of thousands of votes were null and void, and that both biden and trump voters were disenfranchised in PA.

SCOPA and the AG just said, well we're gonna do this, fuck you PA citizens.

That's not gonna fly. Everyone I know and work with is fucking pissed. But, CNN won't tell you that.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MI, PA, GA and NV all broke their own election laws by arbitrarily changing them at the last minute without amending their state constitutions, which is the proper procedure. There's a lawsuit from the texas AG regarding this, alleging that violating your own state election laws while the rest of the states followed theirs disenfranchises the voters of those other states. It's a fair legal argument. Just sayin!

I'm 99% sure joe biden will be the next president, and I'm 99% sure he will be terrible. Just as long as we get to stick it to that trump guy though! Great perspective.

citation needed. sounds like something you read on social media, grandpa.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

citation needed. sounds like something you read on social media, grandpa.

It is literally the entire basis of the lawsuit you absolute doofus, what do you think they are suing over? Do you know anything about the legal system at all?

These states made last minute changes to their voting laws over covid 19 that violated their own state constitutions. You have to amend your state constitution to make such a change, and they did not. This is the layman's shorthand version of the texas suit. For the love of god read a book.

[kaizersoze]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is literally the entire basis of the lawsuit you absolute doofus, what do you think they are suing over? Do you know anything about the legal system at all?

These states made last minute changes to their voting laws over covid 19 that violated their own state constitutions. You have to amend your state constitution to make such a change, and they did not. This is the layman's shorthand version of the texas suit. For the love of god read a book.

So because they allowed mail in and early voting, and arent allowed to count the ballots until after they've all come in, so that they could spare masses of their population getting covid - which even if they will likely live many have had severe long term side effects after recovery, they did a bad.

The real bullet point to take from this is "Trump snowflakes lose, demands they throw out all the mail in ballots because they voted differently than I did and since we lost we need a fucking coup to undermine democracy."

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by kaizersoze [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So because they allowed mail in and early voting, and arent allowed to count the ballots until after they've all come in, so that they could spare masses of their population getting covid - which even if they will likely live many have had severe long term side effects after recovery, they did a bad.

The real bullet point to take from this is "Trump snowflakes lose, demands they throw out all the mail in ballots because they voted differently than I did and since we lost we need a fucking coup to undermine democracy."

No, but thank you for politicizing the complaint. The complaint is that they violated their own state constitutions, which disenfranchises other states who did not violate their own state constitutions.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MI, PA, GA and NV all broke their own election laws by arbitrarily changing them at the last minute without amending their state constitutions, which is the proper procedure. There's a lawsuit from the texas AG regarding this, alleging that violating your own state election laws while the rest of the states followed theirs disenfranchises the voters of those other states. It's a fair legal argument. Just sayin!

I'm 99% sure joe biden will be the next president, and I'm 99% sure he will be terrible. Just as long as we get to stick it to that trump guy though! Great perspective.

This suit is frivolous and I’m surprised he isn’t sanctioned for it. It’s not a fair legal argument. It’s an argument that goes against the entire basis of our system and the way it’s set up. You can’t sue based on another state’s process. It’s a laughable claim and clearly just designed so that AG can try and sway trump to give him a pardon since the TX AG is likely to be arrested by the FBI soon.

Also, let’s just assume in some impossible alternate reality that this case was somehow permitted to actually be heard and TX won. Why on earth would you ever want to create that precedent? That would essentially mean every single blue state can challenge your election of a Republican. It’s really the dumbest move you could possibly make.

Yet again, Douglas1999 shows how little actual knowledge he has of our government and the way it and our judicial system work.