What are the very high traffic areas antisocial people should avoid?

[magnetaress]

like on green right now?

Not that I play there, just curious...

I can imagine, Warsliks giant fort being lol wtfbbq
and most of OT

-i think karnors is going to be crazy for like 3 months straight

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what are some interesting alternatives? spots people can hide out in and kind of be afk safe?

[Seducio]

Pretty much what you could imagine with tons of level 50s maxed right out the gates.

Sebilis is a zoo.

City Guards in the various towns are a good chill alternative if you can get one of those camps.

Surprisingly the 30s and 40s spots in Kunark are quite sparse. OT has a dozen folks.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much what you could imagine with tons of level 50s maxed right out the gates.

Sebilis is a zoo.

City Guards in the various towns are a good chill alternative if you can get one of those camps.

Surprisingly the 30s and 40s spots in Kunark are quite sparse. OT has a dozen folks.

Kunark mobs have higher HP and hit harder than a lot of old world mobs in that level range. So if you’re soloing, it’s generally an easier time to just stay in the old world

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surprisingly the 30s and 40s spots in Kunark are quite sparse. OT has a dozen folks.

That's because (unpopular opinion?) outdoor Kunark zones suck fucking ass. They look kinda nice in appearance and lore, but mostly blow for any practical purpose aside from bard swarming or quadding and shit in some of them. Kunark grouping is all about the dungeons and really in the 30s/40s the old world is far better for just about anyone in just about every way.

[Mirana]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's because (unpopular opinion?) outdoor Kunark zones suck fucking ass. They look kinda nice in appearance and lore, but mostly blow for any practical purpose aside from bard swarming or quadding and shit in some of them. Kunark grouping is all about the dungeons and really in the 30s/40s the old world is far better for just about anyone in just about every way.

Yup. Old world ZEMs being revamped and kunark zones being untouched means very few people are going to endure a garbage ZEM like The Overthere. The people there are doing so at their own expense, purely to experience the Kunark zones again.

[Seducio]

Agree on a exp efficiency basis. Back in the day though the novelty factor was a bigger deal than it is today.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's because (unpopular opinion?) outdoor Kunark zones suck fucking ass. They look kinda nice in appearance and lore, but mostly blow for any practical purpose aside from bard swarming or quadding and shit in some of them. Kunark grouping is all about the dungeons and really in the 30s/40s the old world is far better for just about anyone in just about every way.

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree on a exp efficiency basis. Back in the day though the novelty factor was a bigger deal than it is today.

It wasn't just about novelty back in the day, but overcrowding. Old World zones were insanely overpopulated in the months before Kunark. There would be 100 people in South Karana. Full groups of 6 would be sitting at 1 Gnoll spire outside Splitpaw. Kunark added a ton of content and the outdoor zones were far more populated with level-appropriate things to hunt than the Old World outdoor zones. Those zones were amazing because they allowed people to actually roam around hunt (even if the majority of groups would end up stick to a wall while 1 person pulled), an enjoyable game experience that is the essence of Everquest.

If the ZEM's on Green were Classic, then outdoor Kunark zones would be fine leveling spots still. Although note, shortly after Kunark launched, people complained the dungeons weren't worth it in comparison to Old World dungeons. They buffed up the ZEM's in those zones in response, although not to anything amazing (particularly considering the comparative difficulty).

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think guards are supposed to be EXP mobs TBH I would nerf the shit out of them.

Guard killing (and various other static level 35+ NPC's) was happening everywhere in Classic, and remained the best way to level, particularly in the city zones with high ZEM. The first person to get level 60 just perma camped an NPC in South Qeynos, and as a Ranger! They eventually nerfed the spawn times of popularly camped NPC's, and made city Gate guards essentially worthless for exping, but certain Old World areas still remained the best place to exp.

[Gustoo]

Yeah well also back in the day you had a lot more players that were in the 30's and 40's for a LOT longer, so you had a lot of people hanging out in OT and FM and LOIO for a really long time because there were lots of mobs there. In a 1000 pop server probably 500 of them were 20-40 or something really high like that. Just guessing like a total blowhard here, but there were lots in that population range.

[Seducio]

The spots in Kunark a 50s should be able to find a group with tells and ooc:

Skyfire Mountians
City of Mist
Howling Stones (no soulbound keys - proceed with care)

The suggestions to stay in the old world are accurate if you want to be safer, but you won't see the spells you are after drop in the old world.

[douglas1999]

I thought seafuries would be chiller since kunark but it's been the opposite, people claim individual spawns now, which I don't ever remember happening before. It's usually just a big FTE orgy. And when that's not happening somebody is swarming them or quadding and it just gets so annoying for normal people who just wanna kill one and then med for ten minutes.

They also start going green at 52