Question About The Hole

commongood · #1 01-25-2019, 06:29 AM

Hey there. Would it be possible for a 60 shaman to solo his way from Master Yael spot into the Undead Tower and kill Ghost of Kindle? My knowledge of the zone is quite limited

Hibbs · #2 01-25-2019, 06:39 AM

Could it be done I'd prob say yes, but it sounds like a real pain in the ass... and pretty time consuming. I'd find some friends.

Just to get up that tunnel from Yael to the ghost tower you prob fight 2 Rats, 4 Golems, couple elementals.

Once you hit that stretch of undead that could easily be like 15 mobs to the top of the tower. couple ghosts in each pull.. Yuck.

Freakish · #3 01-25-2019, 07:06 AM

Invis where you can, Malo and root camp next to tower. Bring ivu pots. Ivu places. The trick is how much will see invis and whether you can camp your way up.

Diogene · #4 01-25-2019, 08:09 AM

For some reason I was able to jump down from paineel and take no damage. Lately I just died. Same happened to someone who was a regular soloer down there. Be careful

Rygar · #5 01-25-2019, 11:04 AM

Can I assume you will have a factioned enchanter ready to loot the item?

That being said, will definitely be tough. There is an area with 3 golems that will aggro together up near undead tower. Given that 60 torp shm are op, I am not terribly confident you'll get to root all 3. There is also a roaming elemental. If you somehow manage this and can ivu, be careful as there is a pathing golem from out of the tower. Camp out at yael ledge.

If you have FD ring, may be best to just DA idol past to ledge and FD. Potential for a lot of caster agro though.

After coming back ivu (remember to watch for the golem) and run up to kirn pool room. Scout a spot with a faction rogue where you hopefully only have to deal with one ghost.

Hardest thing is I don't think there is a safe spot, so getting a pet will be tough. Ghosts are super resistant, so may want to tank with a tash stick first before malo / slow.

If you succeed, rest is cake. Can cast on her to solo pull, others won't assist.

22:30 timer to fight as well, good luck.

commongood · #6 01-25-2019, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can I assume you will have a factioned enchanter ready to loot the item?

That being said, will definitely be tough. There is an area with 3 golems that will aggro together up near undead tower. Given that 60 torp shm are op, I am not terribly confident you'll get to root all 3. There is also a roaming elemental. If you somehow manage this and can ivu, be careful as there is a pathing golem from out of the tower. Camp out at yael ledge.

If you have FD ring, may be best to just DA idol past to ledge and FD. Potential for a lot of caster agro though.

After coming back ivu (remember to watch for the golem) and run up to kirn pool room. Scout a spot with a faction rogue where you hopefully only have to deal with one ghost.

Hardest thing is I don't think there is a safe spot, so getting a pet will be tough. Ghosts are super resistant, so may want to tank with a tash stick first before malo / slow.

If you succeed, rest is cake. Can cast on her to solo pull, others won't assist.

22:30 timer to fight as well, good luck.

Thanks for the advice (thanks to all that answered). I have a factioned chanter, yes - or rather, I'm not on brell deity but entrance mobs con dubious when I'm in earth elemental illusion + collaboration.

I'm having second thoughts about the shaman plan. I also have a 60 necro. I wonder if I'd be able to jump him down to Yael and then invis / ivu / solo my way towards undead tower and then pull Kindle out.

Para99 · #7 01-25-2019, 11:35 AM

Since your Enchanter is factioned just do it on him it is super easy. You can invis past the roaming rat then ivu all the way to the stairwell on the top floor of the tower. There's 1 static spawn ghost in the corner before the door to the top floor you can most likely use as a pet, then crit lull pull Kindle from inside the stair well and it's a 1 v 1 fight with no chance of adds.

If the static single spawn ghost is one of the level 54 ones you cant use Boltrans on then there's a roamer in the stairs on the floor below iirc, also one right around the corner of the door that could also be used.

Worst case scenario you could use summoned pet to kill her if you wanted to kill the static spawn ghost first or keep it lulled or mezzed. Pretty sure some of the 54 ghosts are immune to mez similar to some of the rock golems but I never tried Rapture to confirm, the 54 ones will chain resist regular mez and Fascination though so it's best to root them if you have to fight one.

commongood · #8 01-25-2019, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Para99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since your Enchanter is factioned just do it on him it is super easy. You can invis past the roaming rat then ivu all the way to the stairwell on the top floor of the tower. There's 1 static spawn ghost in the corner before the door to the top floor you can most likely use as a pet, then crit lull pull Kindle from inside the stair well and it's a 1 v 1 fight with no chance of adds.

If the static single spawn ghost is one of the level 54 ones you cant use Boltrans on then there's a roamer in the stairs on the floor below iirc, also one right around the corner of the door that could also be used.

Worst case scenario you could use summoned pet to kill her if you wanted to kill the static spawn ghost first or keep it lulled or mezzed. Pretty sure some of the 54 ghosts are immune to mez similar to some of the rock golems but I never tried Rapture to confirm, the 54 ones will chain resist regular mez and Fascination though so it's best to root them if you have to fight one.

Hey that sounds pretty good. The issue is that my chanter is only level 55 so I worry about getting stomped.

Assuming my necro can get to the Master Yael spot wouldn’t he be able basically use the same strategy that you describe? Or will he have to fight too many live mobs?

Para99 · #9 01-25-2019, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commongood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey that sounds pretty good. The issue is that my chanter is only level 55 so I worry about getting stomped.

Assuming my necro can get to the Master Yael spot wouldn’t he be able basically use the same strategy that you describe? Or will he have to fight too many live mobs?

Have you killed Hole mobs on your necro before? If you haven't I think Ball of Golem Clay illusion from CT and an alliance neck can get you to dubious with the mobs with faction, just not rats/undead/etc. Memory is kind of hazy on that so I may be wrong, but the potion is like 100pp if you can find one and if you have the neck or access to one it'd be worth trying at the zone in before you try dropping into Yael area.

But yes if you can get to the tower you could easily kill her in the stairs either charming the stair spawn or by killing the stair spawn then her with necro pet.

branamil · #10 01-25-2019, 01:23 PM

Kindle is very easy. You can get to her as an ench with a combination of Calm, Invis, and IvU. Necro could probably easily get there as well. I don't know why you'd want to bring a shaman when others can get there so easily. You don't have to kill anything besides her so you won't ruin hole faction. There is one ghost guarding her room that you probably can't avoid besides Calm. But if you pull her out of the room and into the stairs you came up, nothing paths there. Just don't go too far down and you won't aggro the ghost on the lower floor. Also root her at the end because she flees. Your 55 animation easily takes her down with slow+haste. Nothing is that suitable to charm near her.