What's a camp?

[ryandward]

Hey all,

Just wondering what counts as a camp and what constitutes holding a camp?

Let's say you claim all the spires in S. karana but you can't kill some of the higher level gnolls. And you have to keep zoning, is it considered acceptable for someone to go around to all the spires and just kill the blue ones that pop, claiming to hold the whole spires as a camp?

[loramin]

You can only camp a single spawn point, and you lose your "camp" the moment you die or zone. (Well, technically you can camp as many mobs as you want, but as soon as someone else wants some you both essentially have to pick one each to camp).

However, just as you can only camp one spawn point, the same applies to anyone else. Every mob beyond the one you camp is "FTE" (First to Engage), which means whoever agroes it first gets it.

So, to address your specific situation, both of you are in the wrong. You weren't really camping anything, because you zoned, and the other person can only camp a single gnoll (and then they have to make sure to engage it soon after it spawns every time, or else they aren't really camping it). Beyond that whoever agroes any given gnoll first gets it.

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[Maner]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can only camp a single spawn point, and you lose your "camp" the moment you die or zone. (Well, technically you can camp as many mobs as you want, but as soon as someone else wants some you both essentially have to pick one each to camp).

However, just as you can only camp one spawn point, the same applies to anyone else. Every mob beyond the one you camp is "FTE" (First to Engage), which means whoever agroes it first gets it.

So, to address your specific situation, both of you are in the wrong. You weren't really camping anything, because you zoned, and the other person can only camp a single gnoll (and then they have to make sure to engage it soon after it spawns every time, or else they aren't really camping it). Beyond that whoever agroes any given gnoll first gets it.

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Arent these the rules for an outside camp? indoors i think a camp consists of everything you can keep cleared and see from the spot you are centrally located.

[Naethyn]

Not sure zoning matters. I've understood the rules to be if you are there before the respawn and you kill it, it is your camp. If you have more then 4 mobs at once they can take one.

[branamil]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure zoning matters.

Where may I ask did you get that idea?

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by branamil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where may I ask did you get that idea?

zoning or dying ABSOLUTELY matters. However it's up to the player if they wanna take ur camp as it's kind of considered a dick move. But if they're playing lawyer-quest, you lose by zoning/camping/dying IF the mobs are up.

(replied to wrong person, sorry meant to reply to the person you replied to)

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure zoning matters. I've understood the rules to be if you are there before the respawn and you kill it, it is your camp. If you have more then 4 mobs at once they can take one.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's inconsistent with what GMs/guides (I forget which) have been saying in threads like these for the past month or so. The zoning part I'm less certain of, but the only being able to camp one mob (when there's competition, in an outdoor/FTE zone) has been pretty clear.

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Interesting, thanks for posting that supermonk! The whole question of "what happens when you each have one mob camped and you start FTEing the rest" has been a bit fuzzy in the threads I've seen, so I like the clarity of "you either get a single camp and no FTE or you can FTE but get no camp at all" (which is what I took from that screenshot).

[Naethyn]

About two years ago while trying to camp the dhampyre in MM I found an empty camp. 10 min later a guy gates in and claims it is his. I petitioned and the GM told me the rules I described above.

[supermonk]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can only camp a single spawn point, and you lose your "camp" the moment you die or zone. (Well, technically you can camp as many mobs as you want, but as soon as someone else wants some you both essentially have to pick one each to camp).

However, just as you can only camp one spawn point, the same applies to anyone else. Every mob beyond the one you camp is "FTE" (First to Engage), which means whoever agroes it first gets it.

So, to address your specific situation, both of you are in the wrong. You weren't really camping anything, because you zoned, and the other person can only camp a single gnoll (and then they have to make sure to engage it soon after it spawns every time, or else they aren't really camping it). Beyond that whoever agroes any given gnoll first gets it.

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How long ago was that quoted statement from Braknar because there's more than 3 spawn points for AC in SRO. If this was the case, then whats not to say a player would zone into SRO with his 2 buddies and each player would take a spawn point to always get the ring if AC spawns?