Chardok AE pulling video

[MalystryxVoF]

I have been asked quite a few times on how I do pulls in Chardok and have made a lil video of how i pull down there that some one that wants to learn how to do it, to do it pretty safely from a pullers perspective.

There are of course many many ways to pull it, but this is one of the safer ways to pull it with just 2 pet set-up spots that still get you between 110-120 mobs per pull nicely clumped in 2 waves.
In this video, however, the cleric did end up dying on the last part of wave 2, but we still killed 100+ mobs on this pull.

Thanks to Rokzor btw for showing me this pull method :P

hope ya like the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6fO64TJi-8

[Rokzor]

First!

Nice movie Malystryx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Spyder73]

I really don't understand how the staff lets the sh!tfest known as "Chardok Proxy" continue to operate. Its obviously an exploit and is NOT classic. Justify it all you want, anyone with a brain can see this is a BS way to power through the end levels with little to no effort (NOT CLASSIC).

[MalystryxVoF]

/shrug

this was done on live as well on The Rathe in the early beginnings before the nerf/update to Chardok.

so it IS classic. might not like it, but it has been around a long time, and will vanish when chardok 2.0 goes live here just like it did back on live.

and it's not an exploit, it's pulling a crapload of mobs and stun locking them down with AE spells.
happens even in PoFear when CT is up and ya want to clean the zone fast. AE shit down and try to stun the crap out of mobs ya can.

people level the way they want, you can call it BS, others use it because they already have 80102939 lvl 60's they leveled the 'normal' way.

and i agree some people are greedy as hell doing this in groups, and a lot of backstabbing goes on at times.

but i've only ever had 1 paying proxy for a few pulls when a guildy had to log early, rest of the times i've always done it for free for friends/family/guildies.

so there are good peeps doing this too to help out friends.

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by MalystryxVoF [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and it's not an exploit, it's pulling a crapload of mobs and stun locking them down with AE spells.

happens even in PoFear when CT is up and ya want to clean the zone fast. AE shit down and try to stun the crap out of mobs ya can.

Fear is not an applicable argument because there is a zone mechanic that summons every mob to defend CT. AoE'ing that with an entire raid is legitimate

Chardok is an exploit, one that was fixed on Live servers but allowed to persist here on P99. Unintentional consequence of faction and group mechanics = exploit. There were duping bugs on live, why are those not left in the game also?

OHHH!!!! Because they were game breaking, just like Chardok

[MalystryxVoF]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fear is not an applicable argument because there is a zone mechanic that summons every mob to defend CT. AoE'ing that with an entire raid is legitimate

Chardok is an exploit, one that was fixed on Live servers but allowed to persist here on P99. Unintentional consequence of faction and group mechanics = exploit. There were duping bugs on live, why are those not left in the game also?

OHHH!!!! Because they were game breaking, just like Chardok

it's not an exploit to agro every mob in the zone... it can be done in ANY zone you want. you could do this in skyshrine or kael and pull the entire zone to one spot and AE it down if you had the manpower to do it, doesn't make it an exploit. anyone can pull massive trains, it's how you handle them that makes or breaks groups/raids.

Do you think a bard swarm kite is also an exploit? because it's the exact same thing. someone running around agroing half a zone and AE'ing it down. Only here, 1 person gets all the exp instead of 1 group splitting all the exp.
THAT is more 'game breaking' then a chardok AE group getting exp.

people just get pissed about chardok groups, but i really have no idea why... i've AE'ed half of Karnor's on live with my warrior and a shaman duo, had the shammy duel me and slow me, i ran around the entire zone agroing shit all over, ran back to zone in, disced and AE'ed them all down with an Earthshaker sword.

Just one more example of AE'ing an entire zone down without "exploits" just agroing everything you see.

Is it easier done when you have faction? hell yes, can you do it without faction? prolly not in such large numbers. Does that make it an exploit? no it doesn't.

like i said, you can do it in almost all zones if you wanted to do it. Do people? no.. why? because it's easier in chardok, and the the setup there is perfect for it. still doesn't make it an exploit.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by MalystryxVoF [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's not an exploit to agro every mob in the zone... it can be done in ANY zone you want. you could do this in skyshrine or kael and pull the entire zone to one spot and AE it down if you had the manpower to do it, doesn't make it an exploit. anyone can pull massive trains, it's how you handle them that makes or breaks groups/raids.

Do you think a bard swarm kite is also an exploit? because it's the exact same thing. someone running around agroing half a zone and AE'ing it down. Only here, 1 person gets all the exp instead of 1 group splitting all the exp.
THAT is more 'game breaking' then a chardok AE group getting exp.

people just get pissed about chardok groups, but i really have no idea why... i've AE'ed half of Karnor's on live with my warrior and a shaman duo, had the shammy duel me and slow me, i ran around the entire zone agroing shit all over, ran back to zone in, disced and AE'ed them all down with an Earthshaker sword.

Just one more example of AE'ing an entire zone down without "exploits" just agroing everything you see.

Is it easier done when you have faction? hell yes, can you do it without faction? prolly not in such large numbers. Does that make it an exploit? no it doesn't.

like i said, you can do it in almost all zones if you wanted to do it. Do people? no.. why? because it's easier in chardok, and the the setup there is perfect for it. still doesn't make it an exploit.

Depends on your definition of "exploit."

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't understand how the staff lets the sh!tfest known as "Chardok Proxy" continue to operate. Its obviously an exploit and is NOT classic. Justify it all you want, anyone with a brain can see this is a BS way to power through the end levels with little to no effort (NOT CLASSIC).

Yep.

Of all the shitty detrimental shit that has slowly made this server shit, Chardok AE takes the cake

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep.

Of all the shitty detrimental shit that has slowly made this server shit, Chardok AE takes the cake

The raid scene and binding in zones with raid mobs would like to talk with you.

Chardok revamp introduces level 56 trash mobs which are unstunnable. Once that happens Chardok AE will switch to Sebilis probably which will be fantastic.

[Levlenna]

Nice!