Yes another swarm kite post

Boilon · #1 03-15-2016, 06:19 PM

So... today I witnessed a bard (54) swarm kiting in City of Mist with mobs that included the upper levels and likely everything from moat and in between. He would swarm kite around the arena when there was another few people fighting the goo's in the side houses and possibly the inside arena mobs. Not only this but he had a black reaver in his kite (which I guess didn't get damaged by the Magic dot so it didn't cause him to summon, although honestly would be a bit funny to see this happen).

Over the past 2 hours he has died once or twice, and then this just causes a dispersion of mobs all over the place. Also after a finished kite the black reaver was left and then was left to zone and agro on to others. So at what point is this considered a zone disruption in terms of PnP and or otherwise unscrupulous behaviour?

Looking for an honest answer about this sort of stuff. I honestly have generally 0 problem with this in an outdoor zone or less used areas, but city of mist at around this time, i have NEVER seen this before in City of Mist but maybe I do not spend enough time here. At what point is it allowed to take mobs off his train because he is monopolizing a lot of the mobs for people 50+ .

I heard that there was a GM comment or something relating to bard trains and that it was okay to take mobs off their trains to kill despite them having the 'FTE'. Any possible serious replies to what can/should be done in this situation would be great! As much as I want to call the bard out by name, I don't know if that would devolve this in to an RnF , but I ended up logging my monk because i was like fuck it im not dealing with this.

Expediency · #2 03-15-2016, 06:42 PM

People who swarm or duo very common PUG spots are jerks. There are a limited amount of zones where nonsoloing classes can log on and expect to find pick up groups (ex MM, CoM, KC) and I have no sympathy for anyone who monopolizes camps solo or duo in these zones when there are dozens of other places they could be doing that.

Swish · #3 03-15-2016, 06:47 PM

It's one of those rules that changed over time. Amelinda used to stop people sweeping the zone clean for kiting purposes but I don't think it's quite the same now.

I'd have the petition ready in a macro for the moment he dies/trains people...and fraps footage is always a bonus.

Boilon · #4 03-15-2016, 06:56 PM

Well I was looking more for a solution of what to do in the case of this happening in a relatively hot spot area in a somewhat peak time (this was about an hour or so ago). I seem to recall a case where a bard was swarm kiting in Unrest like a year or two ago and a CSR saying that it was OKAY to take mobs off their kite. So I am wondering is it then okay to take mobs off of their CoM kite...

There was very limited mobs left up on the upper walls in CoM and it got to the point where I just logged because between me and my duo partner there just wasn't enough to kill at all (when normally I am able to share this with multiple other solo or duoers).

applesauce25r624 · #5 03-15-2016, 07:01 PM

sounds pretty classic to me

Swish · #6 03-15-2016, 07:04 PM

Probably is, particularly as the timeline went on... they cut back more and more on staff hours.

I'd petition it if he's disrupting the zone, particularly if it involves zoning black reavers who are going to path to some difficult place involving treading on arena or moat groups.

Boilon · #7 03-15-2016, 07:08 PM

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Probably is, particularly as the timeline went on...

Probably is what sorry? That it's okay to take mobs off a bard kite?

Pokesan · #8 03-15-2016, 07:09 PM

You are always responsible for your pulls. So if his pull gets anyone killed, they can petition and he'll have to level another bard to 54 during his 1 week suspension.

iruinedyourday · #9 03-15-2016, 07:22 PM

Consider RED... or:

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Swish · #10 03-15-2016, 07:28 PM

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Probably is what sorry? That it's okay to take mobs off a bard kite?

Probably is classic with Verant/SOEs customer service the way it was... or more likely, classic on some servers, and not classic on others [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Typically people on dial up didn't do what bards did in 2000ish though, surely?