Faction ... faction vs fiction?

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Word on the street is that general giants outside Kael in Wakening lands gives a larger faction hit. According to the wiki this is hit or miss. Compared to Live where faction is reported with a raw numerical value ... general giants in WL are the same as EW and GD with few exceptions.

What's the general consensus?

If faction hits for trash giants is the same per kill, it would make sense that the mindless slaughter of lower level giants in GD and Iceclad is the most efficient way for a solo person. If the faction hits are indeed greater for trash in WL ... perhaps thats the best.

Thoughts?

[icedwards]

An hour or two clearing giants can take you from kos to amiable. Tack on another couple hours and you'll hit ally no problem. I can't comment on whether the giants are better in WL but clearing the three camps, plus named giants and random sentinels along the kael wall is super effecient when you have a large kill squad.

Keep an eye out while statue is in window, most guilds competing for that kill will be outside farming faction rather than simply camping out inside.

[Monty405]

Yes, WL near Kael entrance is the place to be to faction.

[Daldaen]

I'm guessing the NPCs Tomekeeper / Toxonomist currently have bugged values allowing you to grind it quickly.

There isn't any evidence this camp was ever useful for faction on live.

[Monty405]

I feel like even the green cons have a great faction value.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing the NPCs Tomekeeper / Toxonomist currently have bugged values allowing you to grind it quickly.

There isn't any evidence this camp was ever useful for faction on live.

And that's the rub. I just checked on live and generic giant faction kills in WL give +1 coldain and -2 giant faction.

Some of the named give like +3/-7. I wouldn't be surprised if the values here are different - that's why i'm seeking input [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Word of mouth thus far has been that WL grinding is more faction points per kill, but slower kill times (unless you've got 4-6 high level people keeping it all literally dead in either location).

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing the NPCs Tomekeeper / Toxonomist currently have bugged values allowing you to grind it quickly.

There isn't any evidence this camp was ever useful for faction on live.

What are those NPCs even for? Can't find any info on them on Allakhazam.

[nyclin]

Tomekeeper is for the dragonbane/Porlos' Fury quest, not sure about the Toxonomist

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing the NPCs Tomekeeper / Toxonomist currently have bugged values allowing you to grind it quickly.

There isn't any evidence this camp was ever useful for faction on live.

I don't think those have bugged values. I don't even think the giants outside of WL have bugged values. They're just lower level, have a quick respawn, and there are a lot of them near each other so they are exceptionally easy to grind. You kill giants MUCH faster than GD (where they're spread out and maybe[?] higher level). It's EASILY faster than Arena groups because those mobs have so much more HP and pulls take longer. It's even arguably faster than Plate cycle, as the higher level mobs in that take a while to kill unless you have a good DPS group.

I think 1-2 hours from kos to amiable is an exaggeration. It took me about 10 hours of WL grinding (sometimes with a group, sometimes solo) and a couple small arena groups to go from kos to ally with CoV. There is some evidence that Kromriff (bearded) giants give more +Coldain than +CoV though, so it might be quicker if you're trying to get ally Coldain.

[Troxx]

It just dawned on me ... I should have titled this thread

"Faction ... Faction vs Fiction?"

H'yuck