Is Tigir's Insects Good For Anything?

[loramin]

The Shaman AoE slow (Tigir's Insects) has always struck me as completely worthless. Is it, or are there any niche cases where it's actually useful?

[skwayb]

Good for faction work when in an AE group. On live a Ranger friend used to pull tons of mobs in Nurga/Droga. I would AE Slow as many times as I could, then cast poison rains before the Wizard in the group would nuke them all and we would clean up the stragglers. I did this mainly when I had Torpor.

It really shouldn't have had a 4 mob limit. It should have just had a small range. I wouldn't get as many faction hits due to the mob limits of our Rains (Since AE Slow won't give you a faction hits since it does no damage) but you do what you can since we don't have many ae spells.

I would also use AE Slow sometimes when I was doing the CC in a group if there were multiple adds. Cast Tigirs, root park as I am getting hammered on then hit with Turgur's on each mob so I had time to recover if root broke. All while I was casting Torpor on myself.

[BlkCamel]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Shaman AoE slow (Tigir's Insects) has always struck me as completely worthless. Is it, or are there any niche cases where it's actually useful?

Can be useful in places like Seb King camp if a multi pull comes in, be prepared for lots of agro. Also can be used for mass agro when powerleveling. I didn't find the spell useful until Luclin raids Vex Thall and SSRA. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[quido]

Repeatedly casting a Targeted AE (such as Tigir's) into a large pack of mobs will make it repeatedly hit the same 4 mobs every time.

[Danth]

It's not uncommon to encounter a situation where the area effect slow can be useful. Heck, it can give fair service on the average pull in Place of Fear or Hate. Unfortunately, Shamans tend to have little room on their spellbar to spare for something they might need. Consequently the spell typically isn't up when it's needed. As with all spells, it's nice to fill out your spell book, but if you don't have this one you can certainly live without it.

Danth

[Rika]

I use it in Hate and HS mostly. Saves the sitting casters or clerics getting eaten on big pulls and helps with CC, I wouldn't be without it tbh. It's saved a wipe on numerous occasions.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Repeatedly casting a Targeted AE (such as Tigir's) into a large pack of mobs will make it repeatedly hit the same 4 mobs every time.

Depends on mob placement but if the mobs are static and you continue targeting the same one this is true.

As others mention, 3-4 mob pulls in Plane of Fear/Hate and Seb/HS (assuming you've burned their HTs) is a good place to use it. Expect to get beat down afterwards ( though hopefully by all slowed mobs), until enchanters/bards mez CC or until casters root CC.

[loramin]

Cool, so there actually is a use for it; thanks all.

[Nirgon]

Roll torpor when big inc called -> aoe slow -> save clothies-> profit

Buying enchanter some time when a fuck up happens is life and death in group

[williestargell]

Nirgon's point is spot on.

The primary use of AE slow is to draw the mobs away from enchanters and put them on a torpor shaman that can tank them while the enchanter mezzes them up or some other class roots them.

It's even better on a raid than it is in a group if the puller brings too many to camp.