Game Mechanics: Dartain the Lost

[Daldaen]

A few things about this guy.

#1. He should be magic immune or damn near close:

Imbued Shield of Paineel - Alla

It is a Ribcage Shield
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#Jul 20 2001 at 5:09 AMRating: Decent
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I have it so i have submitted this new shield.

You can found it in the tower where are the NPC for Epic quests. The NPC is lvl 55, almost full RM. Sorry but i don't remember his name ...

RE: It is a Ribcage Shield
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#Jul 24 2001 at 4:37 AMRating: Decent
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Yes, almost fully Magic Resistant.

So sticking roots or slowing on him shouldn't really be doable. I seem to recall having no issue sticking snare or DoTs on him last time I was down there.

#2. He should drop 2 items off his loot table:

Withered Leather Tunic - Alla

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#Jun 20 2001 at 9:17 AMRating: Excellent
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I was on the raid when this drops, it dropped off a named mob in the left graveyard - forget the name he is a erudite. Also dropped a book that is great for necros - Basically a spirit tomb with lots of negative stats but some mana. The room he is in is locked - have to have a rogue pick it to pull him. Easy to kill. Hope this helps- left graveyard behind locked door - erudite guy.

Tome of Miragul - Alla

Well, as one of the (few) Cimmerii of Erollisi Marr, I saw this item drop. The same wraith also had a Withered Leather Tunic, with very delectable statistics.

[Alunova]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few things about this guy.

#1. He should be magic immune or damn near close:

Fixed, pending update.

As for #2, he currently has 3 items, is this incorrect? He should not have the leather tunic? Who should? Need more research on this one.

[Alunova]

Keeper of the Tombs?

[Somekid123]

Above statement doesn't define he drops two at once, the post can also imply that he has seen both drop not necessarily at once.

[Daldaen]

No, he should drop all three of those items, I just wasn't clear on the context:

The first quote under my point #2. It's from the Withered Leather tunic page. Bolded part #1. "I was on the raid when this dropped". References the leather tunic. Then he says in the 2nd bolded part that the tome dropped in ADDITION to the tunic.

The second quote is the reverse. He references the tome dropped and in ADDITION the Tunic dropped.

Also my first two quotes about the MR of Dartain are from the Imbued Shield of Paineel page, and clearly describe that he drops the shield.

He should drop two of the three items on his loot table each time.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Somekid123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Above statement doesn't define he drops two at once, the post can also imply that he has seen both drop not necessarily at once.

Not to be mean... But your reading comprehension is fail. Both of those quotes clearly say he dropped them simultaneously. The only alternative is that they were down there long enough for a second to spawn, which would make the 36hr respawn way off...

I was on the raid when this drops, it dropped off a named mob in the left graveyard - forget the name he is a erudite. Also dropped a book that is great for necros - Basically a spirit tomb with lots of negative stats but some mana. The room he is in is locked - have to have a rogue pick it to pull him. Easy to kill. Hope this helps- left graveyard behind locked door - erudite guy.

If it were saying he can drop, the bolded wouldn't read "Also dropped", but instead "Also can drop" or "Also drops"

Well, as one of the (few) Cimmerii of Erollisi Marr, I saw this item drop. The same wraith also had a Withered Leather Tunic, with very delectable statistics.

Again the tense of have used here implies they dropped simultaneously.

[Alunova]

Didn't notice the spawn time on him, will discuss this with the other devs.

[Somekid123]

Thanks alunova that's what I was implying. If you want change show something definitive.

ADD: Bah your edit doesn't go with what I replied.

[Tecmos Deception]

I appreciate the work the devs do on this project as much as anyone. But ... you really changed him based on two random, vague, not-exceptionally-reliable comments made by a single poster?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate the work the devs do on this project as much as anyone. But ... you really changed him based on two random, vague, not-exceptionally-reliable comments made by a single poster?

You are aware that almost no evidence exists regarding this mob (so far as I can tell) and they built him / his drop table mostly on their own?

He didn't even appear in Everlore or Allakhazam bestiary databases until 2002, a bit before the hole revamp.

However if there is a plethora of evidence out there that disagrees with what I posted, feel free to prove me wrong.