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Old 07-16-2014, 09:15 PM
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Default Give a charmed pet a torch = Quad?

Im hearing from people that if you give an NPC you charmed "a torch" which has no stats and is secondary only, it'll allow it to quad. I don't recall this being classic if so ill try and dig up info unless someone happens to post otherwise that it is.

Whatever happen to the rusty weapon combos? Im more so annoyed running through The Hole trying to find newbs a Smoldering Brand to give away, killing the mob wasting my time / mana and it drops nothing due to it being "a torch" and NPC's not returning items given to them.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:21 PM
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Any secondary equippable item (bard instruments) allow pets to dual wield.

I too do not recall it being classic. But this is a very hard one to prove against.

I think if the situation were flipped, and it didn't work like it does now on P99, and people wanted to get it changed, they would have a VERY hard time finding evidence promoting the notion that secondary items should allow mobs to dual wield.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:22 PM
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Believe it allows a mob to dual wield - so if it can double attack = quad. Probably just saves the time of having to carry 2 weapons to force a dual wield.
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Old 07-16-2014, 09:27 PM
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It isn't classic, it's a bug here.

Giving a mob a secondary only slot on live actually turned DW off.

Necro pets still have this great bug on red and require torches.
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Old 07-16-2014, 10:02 PM
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It isn't classic, it's a bug here.

Giving a mob a secondary only slot on live actually turned DW off.

Necro pets still have this great bug on red and require torches.
Nerf that crap!!!!

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Old 07-16-2014, 10:11 PM
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To my knowledge, this did not work on live.

However, having low weight torches allowing quads somewhat remedies the nonclassic issue of weapons not being recoverable from charmed NPCs for those too poor to afford WR bags.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:18 AM
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Did it not work on live, or did very few people ever think about it/talk about it?

There's lots of things that happen on P99 that "never happened on live," like Warriors locking their aggro with Midnight Mallets. Doesn't mean it wasn't possible.
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Old 07-17-2014, 05:10 AM
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I saw this on live. You cant prove otherwise.
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:17 AM
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:39 AM
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Did it not work on live, or did very few people ever think about it/talk about it?

There's lots of things that happen on P99 that "never happened on live," like Warriors locking their aggro with Midnight Mallets. Doesn't mean it wasn't possible.
This is what I was talking about. If it weren't this way on P99, and someone thought it was, finding evidence to support this would be near impossible I thinks.

The only way to prove that it wasn't possible is find someone giving a pet a torch, bard instrument or shield saying it didn't add DW.

But Mallets are more of a mechanic thing. In classic it did have 5 charges of instant cast slow and merchants allowed recharge by not differentiating items based on charge. People didn't think to use them on warrior, but it is known that slows are aggro and anyone can spam click them.

Torches on the other hand would have to be a very specific bug that goes against standard game mechanics. Better comparison would be Goblin Gazughi Ring, where IvA provides enormous aggro even though the mechanic of casting an invis doesn't normally, that was just a special bug to that spell.

I'm of the opinion this should be pulled unless someone can provide some link or screenshots of pets holding secondary items. Cause proving something that didn't exist is extremely difficult. Common sense should reign supreme until evidence proves that EQ devs left a bug or stupid mechanic in game that makes no sense.
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