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Old 08-18-2010, 02:39 PM
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Default Brass instrument skill-ups aren't frequent enough:

This was tested with McVaxius' Berserker Crescendo. I had the song playing until I went linkdead. In about 20 minutes I got one skillup. The logs say it all:

[Wed Aug 18 14:04:39 2010] Game Time: Wednesday, September 11, 3144 - 11 AM
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:39 2010] Earth Time: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 14:04:39
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:40 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:46 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:51 2010] You take a bite out of a Roots.
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:51 2010] Ahhh. That was tasty.
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:52 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:53 2010] You could not possibly eat any more, you would explode!
[Wed Aug 18 14:04:58 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:04 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:10 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:16 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:22 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:28 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:34 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:40 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:46 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:52 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:05:58 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:04 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:10 2010] A fire goblin scout hits Aluciib for 20 points of damage.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:10 2010] A fire goblin scout was burned.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:10 2010] A fire goblin scout tries to kick Aluciib, but misses!
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:10 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:14 2010] A fire goblin scout hits Aluciib for 20 points of damage.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:14 2010] A fire goblin scout was burned.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:16 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:17 2010] A fire goblin scout tries to hit Aluciib, but misses!
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:18 2010] A fire goblin scout tries to kick Aluciib, but misses!
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:19 2010] Aluciib begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:21 2010] A fire goblin scout tries to hit Aluciib, but misses!
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:22 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:24 2010] A fire goblin scout is bathed in fire.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:24 2010] a fire goblin scout has been slain by Aluciib!
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:24 2010] A fire goblin scout is bathed in fire.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:28 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:34 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:40 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:41 2010] Aluciib begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:43 2010] The mystic symbol fades.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:46 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:51 2010] Aluciib floats into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:52 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:54 2010] Aluciib begins to walk faster.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:56 2010] Aluciib begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Aug 18 14:06:58 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:01 2010] Aluciib fades away.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:04 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:10 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:16 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:22 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:28 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:34 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:40 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:46 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:52 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:07:58 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:04 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:10 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:16 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:22 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:28 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:34 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:40 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:46 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:52 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:08:58 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:04 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:09:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:10:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:11:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:12:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:13:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:53 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:14:59 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:05 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:11 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:17 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:23 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:29 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:35 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:41 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:47 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:15:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:16:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:42 2010] You have become better at Brass Instruments! (190)
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:17:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:18:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:19:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:20:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:15 2010] Strohbert's spell fizzles!
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:17 2010] Strohbert begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:22 2010] Strohbert fades away.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:24 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:30 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:36 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:42 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:48 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:50 2010] Darkmaus begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:54 2010] Gundahar is surrounded by a brief lupine aura.
[Wed Aug 18 14:21:54 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:00 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:06 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:07 2010] Gundahar says, 'ty )'
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:12 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:18 2010] You go berserk.
[Wed Aug 18 14:22:25 2010] You go berserk.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:02 PM
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In addition to the proof I posted above, I think this is also one of those "you know it when you see it" problems, so I'd like some input from other Bards who have noticed that brass instruments simply do not level up fast enough.

Also I'll be doing a test for another type of instruments the next time I level up. Which might be never.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:05 PM
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I tend to go to as vacant a place i can find (top of wall behind SolRo zone in is a good spot) and AFK while doing a brass song. By the time I got done with dinner and a movie I was all caught up on my brass skill.
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Why is it so much harder compared to the other instruments though? I know it's still *possible* to level up Brass, but it seems unreasonable that you have to go AFK for five hours to do it.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:10 PM
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Also I've noticed the same thing with Wind instruments:

[Wed Aug 18 15:12:13 2010] Logging to 'eqlog.txt' is now *ON*.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:15 2010] Game Time: Thursday, September 12, 3144 - 9 AM
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:15 2010] Earth Time: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 15:12:15
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:19 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:25 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:31 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:37 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:43 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:49 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:12:55 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:01 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:07 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:13 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:19 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:13:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:14:56 2010] You could not possibly eat any more, you would explode!
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:04 2010] Your resolution fades.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:15:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:16:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:17:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:18:56 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:02 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:08 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:14 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:20 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:23 2010] You could not possibly eat any more, you would explode!
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:26 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:32 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:38 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:44 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:50 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:19:57 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:03 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:09 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:15 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:21 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:27 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:33 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:39 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:45 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:51 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:20:57 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:03 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:09 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:15 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:21 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:27 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:33 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:39 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:45 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:51 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:21:57 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:03 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:09 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:15 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:21 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:27 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:27 2010] You say to your guild, 'wow there might be a problem with wind instruments too'
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:30 2010] Game Time: Thursday, September 12, 3144 - 1 PM
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:30 2010] Earth Time: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 15:22:30
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:33 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:39 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:45 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:50 2010] You say to your guild, '10 minutes of blasting the levi song and no skill up'
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:51 2010] The aria lifts you into the air.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:54 2010] You forget Agilmente`s Aria of Eagles.
[Wed Aug 18 15:22:54 2010] Your song ends.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:01 2010] Beginning to memorize Shauri`s Sonorous Clouding...
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:02 2010] You have finished memorizing Shauri`s Sonorous Clouding.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:02 2010] You haven't recovered yet...
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:03 2010] You haven't recovered yet...
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:06 2010] You stop floating.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:07 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:13 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:19 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:22 2010] You have scrounged up some food.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:24 2010] You take a bite out of a Mushroom.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:24 2010] Ahhh. That was tasty.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:25 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:26 2010] You could not possibly eat any more, you would explode!
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:31 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:37 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:43 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:49 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:23:55 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:01 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:07 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:13 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:19 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:25 2010] A soft mist surrounds you.
[Wed Aug 18 15:24:25 2010] You have become better at Wind Instruments! (193)

(these logs are heavily edited to remove guild chat, tells, and other stuff like that)
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Why is it so much harder compared to the other instruments though? I know it's still *possible* to level up Brass, but it seems unreasonable that you have to go AFK for five hours to do it.
Actually stringed and percussion used to be just as bad.
It seems like they level up faster now since the last patch, not sure why but I did notice this when my bard dinged the other day. No clue what (if anything) was changed. There's always a chance it was just dumb luck on my part so I didn't think too much of it.

But obviously you are generally using those 2 skills the most anyway so there is some advantage there.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:29 PM
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Not all skillups are created equal. Most (but not all) skillups follow some derivative of the formula used for tradeskills. And this formula for some reason creates a "hell level" from 175 to 200. But I'll check this out and see if brass is moving slower than the other instrument skills at that gap.

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When the live devs tried to fix the "skillpoint hell levels", they broke all skillups and made it pretty much impossible to skill up with anything following that base formula, and they listed most of them. There is a thread where Ngreth discusses the difficulty gap, what caused it, how they broke it, and how they were fixing it. I can't remember where I saw it, but going by my history, it's going to be on one of these two links.

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Old 08-18-2010, 07:51 PM
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Not all skillups are created equal. Most (but not all) skillups follow some derivative of the formula used for tradeskills. And this formula for some reason creates a "hell level" from 175 to 200. But I'll check this out and see if brass is moving slower than the other instrument skills at that gap.

Meanwhile, more info on the topic.

When the live devs tried to fix the "skillpoint hell levels", they broke all skillups and made it pretty much impossible to skill up with anything following that base formula, and they listed most of them. There is a thread where Ngreth discusses the difficulty gap, what caused it, how they broke it, and how they were fixing it. I can't remember where I saw it, but going by my history, it's going to be on one of these two links.

http://web.archive.org/web/200010181...qtraderscorner
http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/forum.php
To be clear, I noticed that brass levels up kind of slow since the very beginning. It took lots of going AFK and with DDD going in the EC tunnel for it to finally catch up.

I'm level 45, and I had no problems with stringed or percussion or singing getting to 230 (I'm only 20% through 45), but wind and brass are still hovering around 190. Keep in mind I use brass a lot - I spent over an entire level aoe kiting spectres in OOT (I do this in oasis too) where obviously using a horn is essential since DDD has better range than chords of dissonance.
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I've got a test bard skilling up in the background, but it won't be as quick as I'd hoped. Artificially spamming casts doesn't grant skillups.
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:19 PM
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Done testing. Looks like they're all about the same.

One thing that may account for it seeming slower, is that when actively using songs, you're running one chance every ~3.5 seconds, while leaving one song playing only runs one chance every 6.

Here's the excel file if anyone's interested.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/x3hm56...nstruments.xls
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