PVP Talks tonight decide Red99 fate

[Stasis01]

We have big nerds who like to look big in a little pond - this box has none of the fun aspects of live or VZTZ.

The rule set is to blame, not the players - if you wiped red99 and recreated the same rule set it would be the same situation even if Nizzar did not play - Holocaust would have done the same thing if they had won.

We need a fresh start and a new rule set. This box is filled with bitterness, and griefing. There is no fun on this box other than the top guild, which the rule set favors highly.

This will be the deciding factor for a lot of players that I have talked to - Rexx/Knuckle realise after their hate trash groups are getting corpse camped (they are lvl 55/53) that these guys don't care about box population or really any other players here. I can't imagine them giving this a real shot and most likely just quitting, like every other group of players/stragglers that have come here. We have 59 people playing on Saturday at 10am, and most likely there's quite a few boxing.

I repeat the rule set created this attitude.

TEAMS- for community/safety for casuals new players

VARIANCE- for end game competition/elimination of zerg tactic being the only viable strategy for a guild

BOXING- This is red99, people want to play the heavy hitting melee, or the heavy DPS caster - finding clerics and enchanters outside of the main PVE guilds, or for groups is impossible, and really boxing was classic - just only allow one box so people don't kill it Sam style.

GROUP EXP BONUS- incentive to invite that shitty rogue with rusty daggers, he increases the groups experience


Little changes won't do - the red99 population is beaten and fed up. The population/attitude on box has shown this every day - LOG ON AND READ OOC, TALK TO THE PLAYERS. One guild happy doing PVE progression on your dime is ridiculous you might as well pull the plug at that point. They shit on your efforts to create a classic PVP box, and the rule set allows them to act exactly how they do and they argue the positives of it.

Last chance devs - if this is micky mouse changes I am out, will cash my loot out and fuck around on blue, that's not a threat, this is just the last breath. Red99 is shit, and it could be great.

[mikemandella]

Well put!

I think we all need to be ok with the idea of a wipe. At worse we lose a small portion "who just don't want to level again". Since when were the devs so concerned about us losing time/items/etc??? This is an EMU box that makes no $$ anyway. When it's all said and done SOE can pull the plug, or Rogean could get bored. We all came back for the nostalgia and to recapture those lost years.. I've played on this box when it had 12 people. A wipe really needs to be put on the table and at least considered. Even people opposed to wiping know we would get a surge of people.

In the end this is supposed to be a PVP server. Not one guilds personal PVE sandbox. The one thing we all mostly agree on is we need some type of major change. I just hope whatever is decided gives some of the blue guilds a reason to go red. Otherwise, ice the box, make another blue server and just be done with it.

-Oppressor

[Bazia]

ur not making me level 51+ again dude

fuck wiping it clean

[heartbrand]

A lot of people don't get eq. This is not counter strike. If you want a MMO that has a sole pvp path with built in rewards and progression play wow.

[heartbrand]

Like I enjoy progressing my char. I also enjoy pvp. If you completely want to remove the progression aspect of eq then the pvp part is bleh, at least to me. At that point ill play a real pvp game like league or cs or madden bros where progression don't matter. My two cents ur mileage may vary.

[Stasis01]

From most bitter person on Red99 to content with how things are.

Oh how transparent HB is.

[runlvlzero]

A lot about progression. But to the best players having the most fun....

Its persona. Which is immortal. No matter what game, where. Maybe it changes a bit as the scenery changes and different options become available or not. But it is a universal cycle that extends well beyond the existance of R99 in both directions. And of which R99 is intrecactly enmeshed. As the creators of the game and even Rogeans persona has shaped what we have today. Good, bad, indifferent.

[runlvlzero]

I cant spell intricately.

[Stasis01]

Lay off that crack pipe.

[runlvlzero]

Done completely without the use of crack. Thanks very much.