There are harsher consequences for bad elf posters than shopliftings irl

[Toxigen]

but they dindu nuffin they good boys

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quitting the field for the evening to await the inevitable cd288 post.

On the morrow. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This made me laugh

[Pulgasari]

This was a bad analogy as it turns out there's a rule against forum crime.

[Toxigen]

macequest

[TheIrateTurk]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in the few bastions of common sense IRL, things are
there used to be hordes of people saying that strict drug laws create drug addicts, "somehow"

now we have rock solid data to point at when we tell those morons to STFU in the future.

Portugal etc.

[cd288]

Yup. Or Portland I think was another example. What we learned is there needs to be a middle ground. There need to be laws and enforcement, but not so strict that an addict feels like they can't even seek assistance or help (whether to quit or in an actual emergency).

[TheIrateTurk]

I don't think I'd cite Portland as an example of a successful city, but sure

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by TheIrateTurk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Portugal etc.

Most of the claims being made for the ‘success of Portugal’s decriminalisation of all types of drug use are false claims.

Decriminalisation has increased drug use for all age-groups

Decriminalisation has seen sharp increases amongst high-school students

Portugal’s drug use, other than for heroin, was initially lower than European
averages

It is not clear what caused major decreases in opiate use before decriminalisation,
but opiate use was in fact declining before decriminalisation

While drug deaths in Portugal are much lower in Portugal due to heroin being
smoked or snorted rather than injected, drug overdose mortality is currently
increasing

HIV decreases are mostly not due to decriminalisation

Other countries have proven interventions which have markedly reduced drug use,
with coerced or mandatory rehab acceptable to their populations

Australia’s Tough on Drugs shows a far superior success to Portugal

A newly released national survey suggests the percent of adults who have used illicit drugs increased to 12.8 percent in 2022, up from 7.8 in 2001, though still below European averages.

[Pulgasari]

If anything, I would credit Portugal's drug addiction successes compared to the rest of Europe to their possession of a Living King

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[TheIrateTurk]

Originally Posted by Pulgasari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of the claims being made for the ‘success of Portugal’s decriminalisation of all types of drug use are false claims.



A newly released national survey suggests the percent of adults who have used illicit drugs increased to 12.8 percent in 2022, up from 7.8 in 2001, though still below European averages.

Rat park, etc.