Bag Limit per Guild

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most jelly we can raid together and part ways like nothing happened, almost like fuck buddies..[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getsome and I only call eachother once a month.

[quido]

I know it's not in your interest to see this issue objectively. You really think it's ok to raid together nearly always and then reserve the right to split up for repops? If it was just an occasional thing, you wouldn't hear me complain. The ways things are right now is cheesy as fuck. If it's not going to change, we can be cheesy as fuck too. I'd prefer we didn't have to.

[kotton05]

See "open relationship"

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know it's not in your interest to see this issue objectively. You really think it's ok to raid together nearly always and then reserve the right to split up for repops? If it was just an occasional thing, you wouldn't hear me complain. The ways things are right now is cheesy as fuck. If it's not going to change, we can be cheesy as fuck too. I'd prefer we didn't have to.

If by be cheesy you mean joint kill mobs on repops with another guild then go for it - as long as any mob you jointly kill on repops counts towards both your bag limits. Have a great time splitting loot and everything between two guilds because of pride.

There is really nothing cheesy or shady about this. Your notion of fairness is being mingled with your bias toward your guilds ability to win mobs at this point. If we tried to claim that we did not need to count joint kills towards both guilds' bag limits, I could see the claim to shadyness - but merely working with another guild when the opportunity is present is not in any way, shape, or form shady.

It seems your real issue is the fact that we sometimes joint raid and sometimes dont depending on the environment we are raiding in - i.e., in the instance that we do raid together on non-repops you have a much stronger force to fight. For that I apologize, however two guilds getting together to gain a competitive advantage with the result that you lose mobs is not breaking any rules.

[Gnomersy]

How can the parties in question be so daft?? You are one unit when it benefits you, and separate units when it benefits you to be separate. It's as vanilla as that.

Is TMO ok Jeremy?? You guys wouldn't have hesitated to make a second guild to game this system in the past. Not flaming just acknowledging you guys "win by almost any means" mantra.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Gnomersy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can the parties in question be so daft?? You are one unit when it benefits you, and separate units when it benefits you to be separate. It's as vanilla as that.

Pretty much...

Making and breaking alliances between guilds is and always has been based on necessity or at the very least gaining an advantage of some sort by doing so. FE and IB have split up on repops before these new raid rules existed because it was the sensible thing to do for two different guilds when multiple targets appear simultaneously. When all three are going head on for a single target, it is not the sensible thing to do. There is nothing cheesy or shady about it; trying to make it seem that way is the only shady thing going on in this thread.

If TMO wanted to avoid being gang-banged they could have taken steps to do so in the past. They were instead confident in their ability to take it from every angle.

<3

[Origin]

Sloan basically acting as my spokesperson. Thanks, pal.

If TMO wanted to do the same thing with another class C guild, they could do so. If TMO wanted to split into two genuinely separate guilds, with two completely different systems, and then joint raid in the same fashion as IB and FE do now, no one would have anything against that.

IB and FE are two completely separate guilds. Old members and same roots? Can you name all of the people currently in FE who were once IB? Saying that either guild is the alt guild of the other is actually insulting.

And since we're already borderline RNFing, here's a question for you: Would Big J be trying to rule lawyer this hard if FE/IB wouldn't have gotten the last PD?

[Tanthallas]

Origin go on vent and help me make this DAOC account ffs.

[quido]

This has nothing to do with PD as the bag limits only apply to non-VP mobs. Almost anyone else would get called a moran for such a dense statement.

[Tanthallas]

I would like to say that I do not think anyone involved here is a moran. Thanks.