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[Kassel]

Yendor, quick slacking and poopsock 12 more posts.

[Szeth]

Like Fauss said, this is simply trolling. The leaderships behind both guilds came to this agreement already.

Are you challenging your leaders' decisions Fauss?

[Paumad]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you challenging your leaders' decisions Fauss?

I occupy guildchat everyday, aren't you?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like Fauss said, this is simply trolling. The leaderships behind both guilds came to this agreement already.

Are you challenging your leaders' decisions Fauss?

no one is challenging anything, i'm simply stating facts. I for one don't care if VD gets a turn at trakanon, as long as they do it solo.

I just find it humorous that VD thinks they are an individual raiding guild, it would be as if IB called themselves an individual raiding guild.

Currently if any person were to app to VD or to IB they would effectively be raiding with both guilds on a weekly basis (you've been doing this for months, it's more than a one night stand). Thus, VD/IB is currently one raiding guild.

Grats on your extra trak IVBD

[Paumad]

You still fail to see the point. I agree on the need to bring two guilds against one for the sake of competing. It is all fair game. But the key word here is merging. Thing that you haven't done, yet are mimicking. You can't compare a merged guild to two guilds. We're not taking two rounds of rotation are we?

We agreed on it, but don't expect us to like it when by your own words you don't have enough people willing to force your own way into that rotation.

[ElanoraBryght]

(Advance apologies for inserting fact into a RnF thread.)
As was already pointed out : if a Trak rotation were put into place that included only TR and TMO, TMO would still have to poopsock.

If that were what the TMO leadership thought best, the agreement would not have been made. No arms were twisted in the making of this rotation.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by ElanoraBryght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(Advance apologies for inserting fact into a RnF thread.)
As was already pointed out : if a Trak rotation were put into place that included only TR and TMO, TMO would still have to poopsock.

If that were what the TMO leadership thought best, the agreement would not have been made. No arms were twisted in the making of this rotation.

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VD doesn't have the numbers or people willing to camp out 40+ people at 1 spot for a two day period. So yes, you are right. We don't have the people willing to do this and it effects our mobilizations in beating two guilds who have people willing to do this. This isn't some big secret as to how or why any agreement between TR and VD came about.

[Szeth]

That exchange was far to civil for RnF. Can we get some name calling and accusations flying?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Szeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That exchange was far to civil for RnF. Can we get some name calling and accusations flying?

come now, the average raider joe has no other place for civil raid discussion. If we posted anything like this in general chat, it would just be moved to here. We also can't view any civil raid discussion in the "Raid guild discussion" section as it's off limits.Thus, we are forced to live off copy/pasting to our respective guild forums and civil discussion in a lawless land.

[Rusl]

^fat