Casters vs Melee THE TRUTH (SCREENSHOTS + INFO)

[Tamiah2011]

Originally Posted by Lovely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I probably have more PVP experience on this beta alone then you have over your full EQ career and It's 2011 experience. Not some 2001 experience when no one knew how to play at all.

Yes of course two wizards will drop a Monk if they find him in the middle of Karana. But just 1 little wizard will drop a druid/shaman/necro and many other classes all alone. I'm proof of that cause I'm doing it non stop on this beta easily. Even winning 1v2 vs other INT/WIS users, sometimes even 1v3 as long no melee is involved it's all possible. The second a melee is on me it all goes to shit. So melee's seem to be overpowered in this case and nothing else.

Just let me get this right. So to prevent a zerg of people being able to kill one person you want to change the whole system so it totally ruins Solo pvp, group pvp and raid pvp? If you actually played in 18v18 Test of Tactics pvp you would realize that it was the lamest pvp that has ever been seen in any MMO. You had 18 people in each time, all groups had a bard and everyone was 100% immune to all spells and CC. You had 20 minutes+ fights and at most 1-3 people died in each fight. REALLY GOOD PVP WITH CLASSIC SYSTEM YES YES.. Not.

Yes I agree since last patch melee is OP now and it going keep players from rolling casters now.

[Sprinkle]

not rolling wiz cause of all the nerfs now : )

[Wonton]

no1 cares, bro

[Sprinkle]

you should care the pure DD Class in eq is nerfed by 40% + in pvp

thats not something small

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Lovely [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The whole point of this thread is just to show that melee's aren't some baby sheep walking around while all casters are wolfs. That's so far from the truth it's not even funny. Everyone will have an edge towards one and another at different locations. It all depends on the environment of the situation. I'm gonna roll a Monk and I'm not scared of any class anywhere tbh. Especially not when I'll spend most of my time inside dungeons where I basically have an edge vs any class. There is also enough utility items out there to make me comfortable even in the middle of Karana's as a Monk.

It just annoys me so much when people sit and write DUDE as Wizard on beta you rape rogues. MAN... Ill rape a ROGUE WITH ANY CLASS I PLAY. Rogues are shit in pvp and that's no news to anyone. I can be a Warrior, Paladin, Mage, Druid, Enchanter whatever. I will walk over any rogue if not two at the same time with any class I play.

Tanks

Paladin - STRONG in PVP

Shadow Knight - STRONG in PVP

Warrior - STRONG in PVP

Priests

Cleric - STRONG in PVP

Druid - STRONG in PVP

Shaman - STRONG in PVP

Melee

Monk - STRONG in PVP

Ranger - STRONG in PVP

Rogue - SHIT IN PVP

Bard - STRONG in PVP

Casters

Enchanter - STRONG in PVP

Magician - STRONG in PVP

Necromancer - STRONG in PVP

Wizard - STRONG in PVP

If you can't make the classes I wrote "STRONG IN PVP" on then you are just bad and there is no hope for you no matter what class you play.

LOLOLOLOL

Magician strong in pvp... that's pretty funny. Leveling up? Yeah they rule. At 50? Farmers and that is it.

[Dontmez_Mebro]

Originally Posted by MakeYouMad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have 0 PvP server experience so you totally overlook the fact that casters are usually coming at you in duos or more.

On Sullon Zek, you would see <Darkenbane> duos of wizard/druid everywhere. On VZTZ, you would have 6 mages attacking you all at the same time. Your little screen shots here are nothing like real world PvP.

How much HP does a monk have? Like 1500? Now imagine being sync dumped by two ice comets.

Casters are going to insta gib people, just because you can't solo an ogre SK with your wizard doesn't mean anything. Let's not forget that pure melee won't even see the caster coming with no see invis item. Half the time you'll probably be standing there fighting an NPC then a wizard de-cloaks behind you and you instantly explode.

WTF does this prove? You're saying melee is underpowered because 4 Wizards can sync comet on them and kill them? Guess what Sherlock. If I get 6 Warriors we can beat you to a pulp and there is nothing you can do about it. You don't balance PVP by making a class able to fight more than one opponent. I swear every new forum I join is just more and more full of complete idiots. Will someone please unplug the internet already?

[Sprinkle]

same can be said for you

idiots will never see your reason , even trying to convince them or tell them anything is just as stupid as being an idiot yourself

will someone unplug your internet please>?

[Vamael]

I don't think this fool understands that IC is more of a finisher spell against that situation, its better to pop small nukes until hes at like 50% while SSing around, for a SK ogre situation its better to use IC at the last 50%, also as a human, your INT is going to blow with full diamond/ pvp resist armor on almost every slot. Most wizards anti class quickly become Warriors/Rogues/Monks after resists and raiding gear. Don't forget we pretty much rock any mage, with fluxing the pet to push the root buff down the mage can't do much but nuke you, Which you can out nuke him. The best thing to fight off most healers is to toss a rain spell to keep them mobile from being able to heal or cast.

[Galacticus]

Lovely is playing a caster and wants no one to play a Melee which can be a counter to them with resists so he pretends Melee are op so no one plays them when they find out how broken they are.

EVERY 50 Melee was boxed with a caster which won't happen on live.

People will cry it's broken when they see it themselves but the server will already be dominated by casters.

I wanted to roll Melee but I tried it and they are broken before 50. I will be playing a caster until the Kunark damage weapons can balance out Melee a bit.


Melee is tuned for Kunark not classic. It will be possible but much more difficult then it should have been.

[jrwriter]

If u Wana own in pvp be rich Mage will own all best all round class in classic just having the levels over poeple will get u more kills