new rules terrible

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that when you want to "grief them, kill people, screenshot it, ForumQuest, win, etc" Holocaust wants to use ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can to "win". Even if that means...fearing engaged mobs,training, Z-axis exploit, zone plugging, ganking and lying about PVP kills.

"for the win"

lol.

Fearing engaged mobs is also banned now??????

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fearing engaged mobs is also banned now??????

Never said it was "banned" I said that it is a lame tactic used by Holocaust to try and grief people that are OOR.

The OOR system was designed so people of higher level could not "grief" lower level players...but for some reason fearing mobs is a "legal" tactic.

[heartbrand]

As to the analogy, here's a better one. You're driving on a 65 MPH road and see cars every day zooming past cops with radar guns at double the posted speed. You keep going the speed limit but are confused why the cops fail to pull these obvious speeders over. The speeding allows them to get to work faster, be more productive, earn more income, etc., but you keep going the speed limit regardless. Finally, one day, you decide that enough is enough, if the speed limit is meaningless, you too will drive double the posted limit so you can also get to work earlier, get home faster, be more productive, waste less time, etc.

As you zoom alongside your habitual speeding friends past the cops with the radar guns, their signals suddenly go off. VROOM VROOM VROOM. You are perplexed. They order you to the side of the road. "Sir, you are going twice the posted speed limit." You look confused and respond, "Officer, you have watched these same people speed past your road on the way to work every single day and have never pulled them over, I had come to think that speeding was not an issue that was taken seriously." The officer looks you up and down and responds, "It's a very serious issue, you have been sentenced to death via lethal injection, immediately." You shout and scream, telling the officer I don't understand, you watch those same people etc., etc., but he doesn't care. He hauls you off to the jail where you will be executed.

While you are in jail awaiting your execution, the speeders have now taken your higher paying jobs, invested in hedge funds, made millions of dollars, and now have purchased beautiful new cars. You see, they don't drive those ricercars anymore on the way to work, they drive BMW's, mercedes, etc., and not just any luxury vehicles, ostentatious ones, bright reds, yellows, etc. They continue to speed on their way to work, build properties, expand their real estate empires, and marry your sisters and rape your mothers. Meanwhile you sit in jail.

Finally, several weeks later, a judge decides to show some mercy to you and commute your sentence to time served. You return to find your jobs gone, many of your loved ones vanished, and all your savings gone. You get in your car to drive to your new lower paying job to see the same speeders as before, but this time in their flashy cars, driving past the same officer, and aren't being pulled over.

You voice your complaints to the town council, but you don't have a vote, as you don't live in a democracy, you just get to pretend to air your concerns to people who pretend to care. Finally, after being tired of being bugged by your incessant complaining, the Mayor of the town agrees to take away the BMW's and Mercedes from these speeders who had been verified via speed camera on the highway. Of course, these speeders are now millionaires and have real estate and stock empires but that's besides the point, they have been punished. Oh, and the Mayor want's that toyota 199 of yours as well. The speeders go out, immediately purchase newer, and even fancier cars than before, while you try to secure a loan with your bad credit to buy Ricardo's 1984 ford.

That's the analogy.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As to the analogy, here's a better one. You're driving on a 65 MPH road and see cars every day zooming past cops with radar guns at double the posted speed. You keep going the speed limit but are confused why the cops fail to pull these obvious speeders over. The speeding allows them to get to work faster, be more productive, earn more income, etc., but you keep going the speed limit regardless. Finally, one day, you decide that enough is enough, if the speed limit is meaningless, you too will drive double the posted limit so you can also get to work earlier, get home faster, be more productive, waste less time, etc.

As you zoom alongside your habitual speeding friends past the cops with the radar guns, their signals suddenly go off. VROOM VROOM VROOM. You are perplexed. They order you to the side of the road. "Sir, you are going twice the posted speed limit." You look confused and respond, "Officer, you have watched these same people speed past your road on the way to work every single day and have never pulled them over, I had come to think that speeding was not an issue that was taken seriously." The officer looks you up and down and responds, "It's a very serious issue, you have been sentenced to death via lethal injection, immediately." You shout and scream, telling the officer I don't understand, you watch those same people etc., etc., but he doesn't care. He hauls you off to the jail where you will be executed.

While you are in jail awaiting your execution, the speeders have now taken your higher paying jobs, invested in hedge funds, made millions of dollars, and now have purchased beautiful new cars. You see, they don't drive those ricercars anymore on the way to work, they drive BMW's, mercedes, etc., and not just any luxury vehicles, ostentatious ones, bright reds, yellows, etc. They continue to speed on their way to work, build properties, expand their real estate empires, and marry your sisters and rape your mothers. Meanwhile you sit in jail.

Finally, several weeks later, a judge decides to show some mercy to you and commute your sentence to time served. You return to find your jobs gone, many of your loved ones vanished, and all your savings gone. You get in your car to drive to your new lower paying job to see the same speeders as before, but this time in their flashy cars, driving past the same officer, and aren't being pulled over.

You voice your complaints to the town council, but you don't have a vote, as you don't live in a democracy, you just get to pretend to air your concerns to people who pretend to care. Finally, after being tired of being bugged by your incessant complaining, the Mayor of the town agrees to take away the BMW's and Mercedes from these speeders who had been verified via speed camera on the highway. Of course, these speeders are now millionaires and have real estate and stock empires but that's besides the point, they have been punished. Oh, and the Mayor want's that toyota 199 of yours as well. The speeders go out, immediately purchase newer, and even fancier cars than before, while you try to secure a loan with your bad credit to buy Ricardo's 1984 ford.

That's the analogy.

Your analogy is flawed because you are trying to equate Police to GM's and that GM's are all just standing around watching "speeders" break the law and do nothing. Which you know to be a lie.

You also are generalizing that everyone but you "cheats". Which by proxy i can LAUGH OUT LOUD at the Bolts you cast through WALLS in CT and LGUK every damn day.

Poor Heartbrand always the victim of injustice and tyranny....

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your analogy is flawed because you are trying to equate Police to GM's and that GM's are all just standing around watching "speeders" break the law and do nothing. Which you know to be a lie.

You also are generalizing that everyone but you "cheats". Which by proxy i can LAUGH OUT LOUD at the Bolts you cast through WALLS in CT and LGUK every damn day.

Poor Heartbrand always the victim of injustice and tyranny....

You're right, it's even easier here where we have confessions and fraps of the violations and don't even need the cops to witness it in the first place. Thanks for helping my point.

[Null]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As to the analogy, here's a better one. You're driving on a 65 MPH road and see cars every day zooming past cops with radar guns at double the posted speed. You keep going the speed limit but are confused why the cops fail to pull these obvious speeders over. The speeding allows them to get to work faster, be more productive, earn more income, etc., but you keep going the speed limit regardless. Finally, one day, you decide that enough is enough, if the speed limit is meaningless, you too will drive double the posted limit so you can also get to work earlier, get home faster, be more productive, waste less time, etc.

As you zoom alongside your habitual speeding friends past the cops with the radar guns, their signals suddenly go off. VROOM VROOM VROOM. You are perplexed. They order you to the side of the road. "Sir, you are going twice the posted speed limit." You look confused and respond, "Officer, you have watched these same people speed past your road on the way to work every single day and have never pulled them over, I had come to think that speeding was not an issue that was taken seriously." The officer looks you up and down and responds, "It's a very serious issue, you have been sentenced to death via lethal injection, immediately." You shout and scream, telling the officer I don't understand, you watch those same people etc., etc., but he doesn't care. He hauls you off to the jail where you will be executed.

While you are in jail awaiting your execution, the speeders have now taken your higher paying jobs, invested in hedge funds, made millions of dollars, and now have purchased beautiful new cars. You see, they don't drive those ricercars anymore on the way to work, they drive BMW's, mercedes, etc., and not just any luxury vehicles, ostentatious ones, bright reds, yellows, etc. They continue to speed on their way to work, build properties, expand their real estate empires, and marry your sisters and rape your mothers. Meanwhile you sit in jail.

Finally, several weeks later, a judge decides to show some mercy to you and commute your sentence to time served. You return to find your jobs gone, many of your loved ones vanished, and all your savings gone. You get in your car to drive to your new lower paying job to see the same speeders as before, but this time in their flashy cars, driving past the same officer, and aren't being pulled over.

You voice your complaints to the town council, but you don't have a vote, as you don't live in a democracy, you just get to pretend to air your concerns to people who pretend to care. Finally, after being tired of being bugged by your incessant complaining, the Mayor of the town agrees to take away the BMW's and Mercedes from these speeders who had been verified via speed camera on the highway. Of course, these speeders are now millionaires and have real estate and stock empires but that's besides the point, they have been punished. Oh, and the Mayor want's that toyota 199 of yours as well. The speeders go out, immediately purchase newer, and even fancier cars than before, while you try to secure a loan with your bad credit to buy Ricardo's 1984 ford.

That's the analogy.

Pretty cool story but thats not how it happened :/

Also, wasn't this thread about the rules that were posted? You keep making this about a situation that has already come, gone and been handled.

[Jontaidoe]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty cool story but thats not how it happened :/

Also, wasn't this thread about the rules that were posted? You keep making this about a situation that has already come, gone and been handled.

Null, i fucking love you.

[Titanuk]

Originally Posted by Null [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty cool story but thats not how it happened :/

Also, wasn't this thread about the rules that were posted? You keep making this about a situation that has already come, gone and been handled.

Originally Posted by Titanuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no rules or bust

Gms can go help the blue server decide who gets VP

[loserofgame]

Originally Posted by Silentone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a thought to all you hardcore red guys. why not make raid zones like VP on blue. No fuckin rules have at it until you turn BLUE and then you will come to your own rules which can be governed by guild officers. seems the pvp server has more rules then the blue server, geezus.

+1. I like rules, but a server like this should have less rules, not more.

It certainly makes things lawless, and difficult(by and large it is anyway, regardless of the rules).

You should not have signed up to play on r99 if you thought you would have an easy time.

[aerokella]

I think if these rules had been in place since day 1 holocaust wouldnt have scared away all the newbies with their grief tactics.