Alternative to xp loss to prevent bind rushing

[Softcore PK]

ok one more post

Originally Posted by Dweed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop thinking that its about the exp loss by itself, its about anything that deters pvp.

In one world I see brawls and fights that go on for hours just for the fun.
In the other I see people leaving/logging after 2 deaths because the exp loss will cost them too much time.

If you want it to be killing people to get them out of a zone entirely because the risks, then that is absolutely fine and has many of its own merits.

However, some of us here think the idea of no exp loss promoting enemies to return for round 3, 4 and 5+ sounds like way more fun.

I understand what you're saying, too. You wanna fight people! Because it's fun and maybe why you played EQ live.

Well what I want, are for these fights to matter. People should have to think about why they're getting into fights, and if the risks involved are worth fighting anyway. There's more opportunity for roleplay this way, and it's simply more realistic. Realism is a good thing, and it's something I've found every other mmo in existence to be lacking. EQ was the happy exception.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Dweed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop thinking that its about the exp loss by itself, its about anything that deters pvp by such a large degree.

In one world I see brawls and fights that go on for hours just for the fun of it.
In the other I see people leaving/logging after 2 deaths because the exp loss will cost them too much time.

If you want it to be killing people to get them out of a zone entirely because the risks, then that is absolutely fine and has many of its own merits.

However, some of us here think the idea of no exp loss promoting enemies to return for round 3, 4 and 5+ sounds like way more fun.

ya sounds fun killing the same person over and over for no reason

guess ur right

[Chronoburn]

I thought RZ peoples were hardcore.

[oldfish]

I sure hope Rogean and Null and the rest take a look at this thread, Im sure they can see where we are going with this, and give it a hard thought.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Chronoburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought RZ peoples were hardcore.

oldfish making them seem like zerg rushing newbs

sz stands the test as the server with manly men imo

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sz stands the test as the server with manly men imo

Especially neuts.

[Dweed]

Originally Posted by gloinz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ya sounds fun killing the same person over and over for no reason

guess ur right

The idea of a group of duoers/soloers slowly building up the numbers/strength to overcome an organized group that's taken over a zone is what sounds like a blast to me. For both parties involved.

It's an escalation of pvp. If everyone leaves/logs after a fight how is that better?

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by Dweed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea of a group of duoers/soloers slowly building up the numbers/strength to overcome an organized group that's taken over a zone is what sounds like a blast to me. For both parties involved.

It's an escalation of pvp. If everyone leaves/logs after a fight how is that better?

you can do this without dying 30 times fyi its called /ooc hey who wants to kill those zerglings 5 paladin lfg

[juicedsixfo]

Sure seems like the majority of you never played RZ. I don't doubt it, I mean, it was 12 years ago. But let me tell you something about it as someone who played RZ on day 1 - it wasn't red. Not even in the slightest. PKs were frowned upon. Don't get me wrong, PvP happened, especially in my guild which was basically formed up of a bunch of old UO players.

But the beauty of RZ was that it had a community of blue, red, purple, and pink. Stop trying to make it something it wasn't. It's not a first person shooter. It's the same old game with PvP turned /on, that's it. Play it how you want.

[Pudge]

didn't read thread.

but the only reason for exp loss in my mind is bind rushing.

it is enough of a loss to be killed, ported to bind naked, and lose the pve you were battling over. if there is an alternative to prevent bind rushing (ex: can't enter the zone you died in in for the next 30 minutes (and i mean, SERVER CONTROLLED, no exceptions - unless rezed) that is also a good solution.