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10-26-2011, 04:56 PM
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1) Most people aren't trying to claim that melees are useless in PvP or anything, just that they have the general advantage indoors while casters have the advantage outdoors.
2) Ice Comet isn't a good spell if you're concerned about mana. You're also playing the one offensive class that seriously struggles with this while other caster classes have various ways around it, whether pets, better mana efficiency, mana recovery tools, or whatever. Plus you're wearing full resist gear against a melee. 3) Some classes struggle in solo PvP. Ask a cleric or enchanter how feasible it was to run around killing people by themselves in classic PvP. It's not as if some grievous injustice has been inflicted by the fact that you sometimes have to give up and flee because your opponent outlasted you. There's not exactly a lot of data in your screenshots, and you do show yourself landing two consecutive nukes for 600+. That alone is enough to straight up kill any caster, and one more nuke will probably take out any rogue or monk as well. Tanks are tanks. You probably wouldn't be able to kill a healer either. Wizards get more flexible in Kunark. 4) The way to counter spells is resists. The way to counter melee is to not stand still. Both can be equally frustrating. You don't strictly have to keep someone rooted to fight them as a wizard - yondering can buy you enough time to get a spell off, but you risk having your target just run off in the opposite direction. Melees have the same problem, they just have even fewer tools to attempt to counter it. You can pretty much counter a warrior, monk or rogue by the simple act of moving, and mostly hybrids as well since stopping to cast root/snare as a hybrid means increasing the distance between yourself and your target and you only really get one or maybe two chances to try before they're out of range entirely. Your tests are all numbers and no real scenarios. 5) Don't really know who you're arguing against at this point. You called me out for basically disputing your claim that one does not encounter melees outside of dungeons, and for wanting the game mechanics to stay classic. It seems to me like you just want validation and will argue against points you've made up yourself and tagged onto the names of whoever wrote more than two lines in your other thread. | ||
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10-26-2011, 05:19 PM
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I'm arguing against the people who's been posting about how useless melee's are and how they can't do anything anywhere. Also against people who think that the first resist code that Everquest was a good thing when you basically became immune to all kinds of CC with just having a little bit of MR gear.
But it seems like most people like the current code and that the developers will stick to it so it doesn't really matter anymore. Also I can't be arsed to argue about minor things anymore cause it won't make a difference anyway. Even if some of the things you just said are totally false like Ice comet not being a mana efficient nuke for Wizards. | ||
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10-26-2011, 05:35 PM
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As a necro or warrior in classic wizards sucked until kunark pretty much. Samething with mages til probably aa's were garbage. With long casting DDs u simply went over a hill/ corner / into water and oomed them out ( if you were unable to see target it still took the mana from you). Here and P99 mages are insane what they can do ( earth pet root landing? Lol, Fire pet lasting more then a couple rounds? Lol ). Everyone and anyone who played classic eq knows mages used air pets for a reason, cause the 3 others were completely worthless to use. Thats why except for mages this box is probably 95% legit. And the 5% that isnt is a good thing, cause being a melee and having a druid cast 1) see invis 2) ensnare 3) pick a dot 4) watch you die is fuckin lame.
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10-26-2011, 10:39 PM
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What you don't see in this post is the fact that Yummy could not have leveled up his SK to 50 without the help of his shaman friend next to him. I have personally witnessed Yummy pvp on his SK while fully buffed from his shaman.
Everyone on this server says they are bad ass. Why should we believe this guy? | ||
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10-26-2011, 11:16 PM
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This post and the screenshots don't show or prove anything. Casters will fuck things up and have an advantage against melee. So you can't roll in and 2 shot a ogre sk in a dungeon? Boo fucking hoo. You don't remember nuking my monk at 5% while on a mob then bind camping my Cleric? Don't remember you complaining about wizards and spells landing then. Worthless thread.
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10-27-2011, 02:46 AM
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