The largest peer reviewed encyclopedia in the world is not a credible source

[God-King Abacab]

Using Wikipedia for sources is no different than listening to an associated professor spout off his bullshit over Inuit culture, but somehow we think that tacking the "Dr." prefix on someone makes them far more credible than anyone else, even that of an actual Inuit.

[deakolt]

philosophy degrees are more worthless than others

[naez]

na im pretty sure i hit it with women's studies

[deakolt]

Originally Posted by naez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

na im pretty sure i hit it with women's studies

sexist that you can't major in men's studies. oh wait. everything else is men's studies

[God-King Abacab]

Alex Trebek, the President of Iran, and Ayn Rand all have philosophy degrees...

Most politicians and Lawyers have extensive concentrations in philosophy, several Federal judges and Senators have a B.S in philosophy

the President of Morgan Stanley has a philosophy degree, Bruce Bodaken CEO of blue shield is a philosophy major.

Time Warner and Paypal are run by philosophy majors

Herbert M. Allison, Jr. CEO of Fannie Mae, former President & COO of Merrill Lynch and Sheila Bair Chair of the FDIC both philosophy majors.


So in what context is the degree useless when many of those whom majored in philosophy control law, economics, politics, and business?

[deakolt]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alex Trebek, the President of Iran, and Ayn Rand all have philosophy degrees...

Most politicians and Lawyers have extensive concentrations in philosophy, several Federal judges and Senators have a B.S in philosophy

the President of Morgan Stanley has a philosophy degree, Bruce Bodaken CEO of blue shield is a philosophy major.

Time Warner and Paypal are run by philosophy majors

Herbert M. Allison, Jr. CEO of Fannie Mae, former President & COO of Merrill Lynch and Sheila Bair Chair of the FDIC both philosophy majors.


So in what context is the degree useless when many of those whom majored in philosophy control law, economics, politics, and business?

I think these examples speak to the intellect and charisma of those individuals, not to the worthfulness of the philosophy degree as a whole. I could also come up with a similar list: so-and-so dropped out of school, this guy was a janitor before he invented this, Einstein failed grade school math (this isn't actually true btw), Steve Jobs worked in his parents' garage...

A good metric for determining the worth of a given degree is the % of college graduates getting jobs 6 months, 1 year, 2 years after graduating and perhaps also their average income. I think you'd find on average philosophy majors have less % hire rate than do, say, applied mathematics majors, and probably lower starting salaries too

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by deakolt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A good metric for determining the worth of a given degree is the % of college graduates getting jobs 6 months, 1 year, 2 years after graduating and perhaps also their average income. I think you'd find on average philosophy majors have less % hire rate than do, say, applied mathematics majors, and probably lower starting salaries too

Those metrics do not matter whatsoever, there are people with associates in IT that lose their promotion to people with a B.A in English, it's not the subject that matters it's the level of a degree basically you will beat anyone out in the job market if you're the one that is applying with a B.A and the other applicants have an A.A

That's why people in the upper levels of management in NASA aren't majors of physics or chemistry but rather master's and doctorates of english, psychology, business, and philosophy, we all know english and philosophy have shit to do with smashing atoms or sending a rocket into space, but they got those positions because they waived around their ph.D and thesis in front of CEO's.

So while my A.A or B.S in philosophy might be worthless in the everyday job hunt, but I bet if I had a Ph.D in the subject I guarantee it wouldn't take me long to get into some 6-figure position at a company in some human relations department

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by God-King Abacab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alex Trebek, the President of Iran, and Ayn Rand all have philosophy degrees...

Most politicians and Lawyers have extensive concentrations in philosophy, several Federal judges and Senators have a B.S in philosophy

the President of Morgan Stanley has a philosophy degree, Bruce Bodaken CEO of blue shield is a philosophy major.

Time Warner and Paypal are run by philosophy majors

Herbert M. Allison, Jr. CEO of Fannie Mae, former President & COO of Merrill Lynch and Sheila Bair Chair of the FDIC both philosophy majors.


So in what context is the degree useless when many of those whom majored in philosophy control law, economics, politics, and business?

Abacab learned all this on Wikipedia. Just sayin...

[deakolt]

well if you're talking about anthropology, history, shit maybe even sociology, they're all equally worthless.

An economics degree or a BS in engineering? not worthless

[God-King Abacab]

Originally Posted by deakolt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well if you're talking about anthropology, history, shit maybe even sociology, they're all equally worthless.

An economics degree or a BS in engineering? not worthless

Anthropologist's that study culture have a huge impact on globalization, how are they worthless when they're compiling research about a group of people that can directly influence politics and economics of a region?

Can't just do business and prop up a McDonalds in India without understanding their culture and behavior habits, hardly a useless degree.