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Old 06-17-2025, 11:03 AM
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If ya ain't got 10 60s in 2025 after 10 years of velious then maybe you should unplug
Not everyone has been playing 5 hours a day for 10 years.
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Old 06-17-2025, 12:10 PM
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Not everyone has been playing 5 hours a day for 10 years.
10 years? thats light weight, this server is 16 years old, its been 10 just in velious.
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Old 06-17-2025, 12:23 PM
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If ya ain't got 10 60s in 2025 after 10 years of velious then maybe you should unplug
Yeah because everyone who plays started 10 years ago…
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Old 06-17-2025, 01:27 PM
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Yeah because everyone who plays started 10 years ago…
I only talk to folks pre 2016, everyone else is ruining the game
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Old 06-17-2025, 01:12 PM
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Precisely. This isn’t one of us lifers who have multiple 60s and access to DKP bought items.

But every post devolves into “well if you’re on your 9th toon buy a full set of akyshrine, get ring 8, belt of dwarf slaying and you’ll zoom from 5-60 on your paladin.”

Again, the answer is monk. Can level with barely any gear. (Bard is not a melee toon)
Quick someone show this man how to battle bard. Bet a bard could melee their way to 60 faster than a monk could untwinked.
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Old 06-18-2025, 10:01 AM
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Quick someone show this man how to battle bard. Bet a bard could melee their way to 60 faster than a monk could untwinked.
True. Bard melee efficiency is very underrated, probably because it's so much faster to swarm kite for XP, and so much more fun/interesting to charm or play group Bard. But Bards really can melee very effectively with the combination of their self-haste, slow, regen, DS and rune spells (and this is not even factoring in the option of fear kiting).

But if you want to go to the trouble of playing a battle Bard, you might as well just duo/trio with a Monk/Rogue, which is a combo that offers some of the best XP in the game.
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Old 06-17-2025, 01:22 PM
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No double attack no thanks
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Old 06-17-2025, 01:27 PM
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There are likely more people here who have access to these items than those who don't so I'm not sure the context is all that far off.
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Old 06-18-2025, 03:44 PM
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Overall bards are the casterest of the hybrids and probably not what someone asking for a melee alt is looking for. I agree with Vexenu that they melee better than people give them credit for, that their solo melee is overshadowed by pbaoe/charm if you're willing to take advantage those, and that a duo/trio with another twink melee can be surprisingly solid.

I have a 57 bard twink I have been slowly leveling. I haven't tried much toe-to-toe, but I have mixed in some attempts at fear+melee (although I have primarily leveled with charm or pbaoe). l was able to clear bloodgills while they were still blue using just fear+melee. I have drums of the beast and lute of the howler, though. Harder to justify melee without those: lute illusion gives 40% haste without costing a song and prime hand drum lets you drum dot while meleeing, so you snare/fear/3xdrum. A similarly geared monk can clear it too, I've heard.

I still mix in some fear+melee when charming, but bloodgills stuck out as one good camp that I could keep clear with just fear+melee. I have recently been trying sebilis entrance; I seem to clear faster when I use more charm relative to melee+fear. Planning to try melee+fear in skyshrine while still leveling, too.
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Old 06-23-2025, 11:19 AM
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melee with a bard pre epic is doing it wrong
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