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Old 01-02-2014, 06:29 PM
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Disclaimer, Doraf is now Doraf lol
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:35 PM
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Guilds are going to have a tough time breaking into T2, let alone T1. New guilds won't have the organization/force/tracking/poopsockability to get to mobs before anyone else in a FFA period, and as much as I'm sure the T2 guilds are for cooperation, no one is going to be able to organize letting another guild have a shot at the mob, especially if T1 guilds are also involved.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:35 PM
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This system is no different then divinity's besides the fact it breaks mobs up between best/hardest to easier lol. Just says in order to get the best loot in game, you should have to atleast try a little, not alot, just a little. It means not everyone can just show up and roll for trak every 2 weeks, without first putting in a little work. How is it fair a guild that has never even tried at anything be given an equal chance to say a guild like Taken who atleast puts in effort. So if a new guild joins the server they should automatically get to roll for trak.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:38 PM
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This system is no different then divinity's besides the fact it breaks mobs up between best/hardest to easier lol. Just says in order to get the best loot in game, you should have to atleast try a little, not alot, just a little. It means not everyone can just show up and roll for trak every 2 weeks, without first putting in a little work. How is it fair a guild that has never even tried at anything be given an equal chance to say a guild like Taken who atleast puts in effort. So if a new guild joins the server they should automatically get to roll for trak.
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Plan seems fair yet actually requires a slight bit of effort.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:37 PM
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Or leaders of other guilds grow a pair and get your members to participate in killing shit instead of farming FBSS's in LGuk all day/night.

You boot those people, not make them officers.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:49 PM
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The only given in the staff plan (as I read it) is that it's highly likely to be a 4 guild rotation with FTE races. That's not to say that tier 2 couldn't have a rotation on the odd weeks, but that's up to them. What this plan adds is what mobs are in Tier 1 & Tier 2's pools, it seems.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:51 PM
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The only given in the staff plan (as I read it) is that it's highly likely to be a 4 guild rotation with FTE races. That's not to say that tier 2 couldn't have a rotation on the odd weeks, but that's up to them. What this plan adds is what mobs are in Tier 1 & Tier 2's pools, it seems.
Let Tier 2 worry about Tier 2, Tier 1 worry about Tier 1.

You guys can play however you want and we will not worry about it, we won't stop you. Please, enjoy the game the way you want. The only thing we're asking for is the exact same thing, the ability to play our way and figure out solutions to our own problems, that's it.
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Old 01-02-2014, 06:56 PM
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The bottom line here is the tier 2 guilds really aren't willing to negotiate with tier 1 guilds. Tier 2 have only offered the divinity plan and have insisted the tier 1 guilds adhere to it absolutely with no modification whereas the numerous proposals by the tier 1 guilds continue to be chastised regardless of how many modifications and concessions have been made in favor of the tier 2's. This isn't a negotiation, it's holding the tier 1's hostage for a pound of flesh for past transgressions.
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:05 PM
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The bottom line here is the tier 2 guilds really aren't willing to negotiate with tier 1 guilds. Tier 2 have only offered the divinity plan and have insisted the tier 1 guilds adhere to it absolutely with no modification whereas the numerous proposals by the tier 1 guilds continue to be chastised regardless of how many modifications and concessions have been made in favor of the tier 2's. This isn't a negotiation, it's holding the tier 1's hostage for a pound of flesh for past transgressions.
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Let Tier 2 worry about Tier 2, Tier 1 worry about Tier 1.

You guys can play however you want and we will not worry about it, we won't stop you. Please, enjoy the game the way you want. The only thing we're asking for is the exact same thing, the ability to play our way and figure out solutions to our own problems, that's it.
Unbrella, listen to Kope here. If tier2 wanted a pound of flesh, we'd ask for mobs so that every guild gets equal # of mobs. Look at Loraen's numbers, tier2 is asking to split 50% of the kills outside VP amongst 70+% of the population while the other 30% gets 50% of the non-VP kills and ALL of VP. Tier2 has their little playground, and tier1 has theirs over in another part of the yard. As Chest said, keep the peanut butter away from the chocolate.
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:12 PM
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Unbrella, listen to Kope here. If tier2 wanted a pound of flesh, we'd ask for mobs so that every guild gets equal # of mobs. Look at Loraen's numbers, tier2 is asking to split 50% of the kills outside VP amongst 70+% of the population while the other 30% gets 50% of the non-VP kills and ALL of VP. Tier2 has their little playground, and tier1 has theirs over in another part of the yard. As Chest said, keep the peanut butter away from the chocolate.
Listen to Kobe? The guy who denied tooth and nail a plan that would give tier2 the majority of the mobs every week and a very easy way to progress to tier1 if they so desired? Giving tier2 their 'little playground' and the ability to be mobile to tier1 without having to deal with tier1 cockblocking them? Literally the straight middle ground between the GM plan and the Divinity plan.

Deajay, you have become just as delusional as the rest now. Either you guys want to compromise or you dont, and as far as I see it you are not here to compromise, you are here to make demands.
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