EQ pvp : higher the risk = less pvp

[Gustoo]

because that would obviously be dumb so I'm sure its impossible..

[Gustoo]

p.s. thanks for information colgate I only post on the forums in favor of item loot and don't have time to read stuff anymore.

I think item loot is great idea on any server. I like forcing item loot down the throats of people who want to have manastone dreams on the new fresh server. I am just afraid of it being another GM/Dev bastard child like red99 was with a mishmash of "well meaning" rules that never get revised or fixed up as people find them to be retarded.

I think it sucks because it leaves red99 classic without much to offer, at least, until T99 becomes a cesspool.

[Gustoo]

That helps.

PVP avoidance is still at 100% even with EXP loss disengaged.

Item loot makes PVP have a point, but it is an inconvenience.

[Retti_]

Like when a shadow knight would have to exp for 6 hours to make up 1 pvp death





Trolllololol

[Gustoo]

Yep. On item loot server the whole point for me is to get my act together and get at a level I want to fight at and start doing battle. When I'm grinding in unrest I'll be wearing full banded,leather, or cloth so when I get ganked it won't really matter. When I'm level 50 plus and I get killed that is just my own sad fault.

Can't wait for item loot. I really hope they put it on FFA instead though.

[Kelsar]

Some valid points in this thread.

My only hope is the GMs ensure the melees don't get screwed over by allowing people to loot primary/secondary/BP/legs<maybe arms>.

Why: I'm primarily thinking about warriors, monks, and rogues who will get absolutely shit on in a new release PvP server with item loot.

This also benefits casters, as they can EQUIP their manastone to ensure they don't lose it.

[dogbarf]

Its not like a slot machine, its more like poker.

We have the bluebies here crying about pvp, they want to play poker without betting any money. They think eqs combat and pvp should be the fun when there are countless other mmos with better more skill based combat and nonstop pvp in battlegrounds.

Then we have the people who think playing poker without betting is gay as fuck, hence they want item loot.

[Supreme Idiot]

If you have ITEM LOOT on the server with NO DROP items, you will just have a repeat of Red99 with 1 zerg guild recruiting/powerleveling everyone to camp no drops. Remove all no drops from the game (minus stuff like jboots, lev cloak, sky haste belts) or watch the server die in 3 months.

[Gustoo]

Uhh...

No drop items all of a sudden are worth having on item loot server, its a lot of fun getting obscure no drop items just to fill out slots with unlootable junk items.

I think designing no drop lower level armor sets (like ivy etched) and the like would make for some fun quests that are actually worth doing.

But disabling all no drop items is stupid.

Manastone users take a big hit in item loot because they now have to waste a primary hand slot with a statless piece of gear when using it.

Primary/Secondary/Range items were only lootable in the very early days of eqPVP and were quickly switched to being non lootable. I don't think that is a worry here since P99 is no longer a classic EQ simulator.