Best solo melee class?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, no. Maybe if you played a ranger you'd understand why they're worthless.

I'd love to hear why you think they are worthless. You can land them at max cast range before the mob reaches you, they cost zero mana, generate agro when needed, and you'll get more mana back if you are doing the trick where you med a tick after a snare cast. Plus you save a spell slot on snare.

Plenty of obvious benefits. You don't need to play a Ranger to understand basic P99 mechanics that are cross-class.

[Cecily]

They're not worthless.

Vendors pay like 489 platinum for them.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd love to hear why you think they are worthless. You can land them at max cast range before the mob reaches you, they cost zero mana, generate agro when needed, and you'll get more mana back if you are doing the trick where you med a tick after a snare cast. Plus you save a spell slot on snare.

You went to the trouble of digging up my Magelo and counting how many items had wisdom or mana, and you can't figure it out?

And Cecily's right, I shouldn't have said worthless. Vendors pay good money for them!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You went to the trouble of digging up my Magelo and counting how many items had wisdom or mana, and you can't figure it out?

And Cecily's right, I shouldn't have said worthless. Vendors pay good money for them!

Both yourself and Cecily have Rangers, and can't even explain basic Ranger clickies.

This doesn't help your argument from authority fallacy. But thanks for helping my argument by showing you can't counter my points!

[Snaggles]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, I was equipping BFG mainhand and Swiftwind offhand, given my weapon choices isn't that the optimal way to use it? And the first time I used it I had no idea how many arrows it would eat, so I think I summoned like 20-30 stacks. Now knowing how many it eats I can see using it more regularly on raids or groups when there's enough downtime between pulls for summoning.

I used it against Brother Z earlier and almost died from pulling aggro. Don't think I had Jolt up so I just turned off autoattack, and waited for some heals and the warrior getting aggro back. I beat the rogue on the parse too, but that's because he pulled aggro too and took a dirt nap. I guess I can take the fact that we both pulled aggro but he died and I didn't as vindication for gearing for AC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohh no, you are doing it right. I just meant if you don’t have at least a Kreiz Flame or a NTOV 2h it’s likely more damage on some targets just to melee off-disc. With a couple big bow crits it can punch above its weight class.

DSM, mana cheap aggro truly is the least of the class’ worry. Between Call of Fire, DW and flame lick I don’t think a bane wizard could peel off a ranger…for the 20 seconds they stayed alive.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both yourself and Cecily have Rangers, and can't even explain basic Ranger clickies.

This doesn't help your argument from authority fallacy. But thanks for helping my argument by showing you can't counter my points!

Do you think Blerv should swap out Gauntlets of Dragon Slaying for tolan gloves? Do you think Zalea should swap out Twisted Steel Gauntlets?

And take another look at my Magelo and maybe you'll understand why they'd be a downgrade for me too.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohh no, you are doing it right. I just meant if you don’t have at least a Kreiz Flame or a NTOV 2h it’s likely more damage on some targets just to melee off-disc. With a couple big bow crits it can punch above its weight class.

DSM, mana cheap aggro truly is the least of the class’ worry. Between Call of Fire, DW and flame lick I don’t think a bane wizard could peel off a ranger…for the 20 seconds they stayed alive.

I didn't say it was a major worry. Cecily is saying he is running OOM in groups after leveling 3 Rangers to 60.

Clearly he is having mana problems, and clickies help with mana problems.

I just find it odd that people are disagreeing with this basic concept for many pages.

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think Blerv should swap out Gauntlets of Dragon Slaying for tolan gloves? Do you think Zalea should swap out Twisted Steel Gauntlets?

And take another look at my Magelo and maybe you'll understand why they'd be a downgrade for me too.

I don't think anybody said to permanentally wear them. On my SK I just swap out my BE Gloves once I am done clicking. It's not hard to do.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both yourself and Cecily have Rangers, and can't even explain basic Ranger clickies.

Which part were you having trouble with?

You equip the item and right click it, wait 4 seconds, and save 15 mana.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which part were you having trouble with?

You equip the item and right click it, wait 4 seconds, and save 15 mana.

That is a great deal for someone like yourself when you are running out of mana by casting 10 mana spells. You spend zero mana on the initial agro transfer before the mob reaches you, and you may not need to cast as many flame licks.

[sammoHung]

Tolan's gloves and Elder Spiritst Gloves are pootrash. Long cast time for a spell that is a very low mana cost as is.