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Old 04-04-2010, 03:59 PM
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First off the picture it self with the quote under it was sacrilegious (to some), Thus I stand by what I said.
Sacrilege is something that does not concern me. The picture is hilarious, and embodies the Christ myth perfectly from a certain point of view. If you seriously believe the stories of the bible are literally true, you're kind of dumb. Sorry.
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Second I'm sorry you generalize Americans because your surrounded by "extremely diverse cross section of Americans". It is your choice on who you surround yourself with, maybe you attract these "people" with your always negitive views of everything?
I don't, nor did I say that I did. I said that my level of respect for people is low. That being said, I am open minded and give people the benefit of the doubt if they want to change my views. I was simply trying to say that I don't respect people until they earn it.
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I am no coward, Id just rather not bring religion into a game when i'm here to have fun.
When you read the sub-forum title, what part of "Off-Topic" did you not understand?
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That being said I just would rather not have this kind of stuff brought up.
Of course you don't want it brought up. Logic makes you feel uncomfortable because it undermines your worldview.
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I know everyone has there own view of things and I respect that completely.
Obviously not. Nice try tho, I like how you say specific things and then say you don't believe the things you said. You're cute.
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I just felt you were attacking a certain group of people and no one deserves that.
I did. ..and yes they fucking do deserve it.
To paraphrase Bill Maher:
The catholic church has a much longer, more illustrious, and more terrible history of institutional rape, executions, murder, and hatred than the nazi's. People seem to be concerned that the new pope is a nazi, when they should be concerned that this nazi guy is a catholic.

Even today, all over the world, catholic priests touch little boys, and various sects of various religions are full of similarly disturbing stories. It's funny how those who dost protest too much are often the very people who commit the most egregious crimes.

To be absolutely crystal clear, I think Jesus was an alright guy. He went around being revolutionary and espousing views that were at once transcendent and realistic. He was persecuted by those who were afraid of his message and the empowerment of the meek. There is not a lot that he is credited with saying that I disagree with. If he was alive today, I would probably follow his path. Whether or not he is the son of god, whether or not he ever claimed to be.. ..I have to cast dispersions, because there is absolutely no physical evidence of any such thing, and all writings about him were from LONG after his death.

I have said in this thread that I respect the morals of the stories of the bible and the various other holy books (except maybe the book of mormon, joe smith was a fruitcake.. ..lol.. ..oh, and dianetics, L.R.R. Hubbardkein is a great sci fi author, but people took his fruity little club WAY too seriously). I think there is a lot that people can learn from these stories, and I truly believe that the original authors wrote these stories to be taken with a grain of salt, not literally. The organizations that came after were involved with power struggles and corruption to a degree that has NEVER been equaled in any area ever.

I'm seriously not trying to diss you for your beliefs dude, and if you read my posts instead of skimming them, you would know that. Seriously, your personal relationship with a higher power is none of my business, and as an agnostic I do not claim to know what is right. Your view has an equal chance of being true as anyone elses as far as I'm concerned, and it very well may be that a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father created existence. Who knows?
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:12 PM
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Sacrilege is something that does not concern me. The picture is hilarious, and embodies the Christ myth perfectly from a certain point of view. If you seriously believe the stories of the bible are literally true, you're kind of dumb. Sorry.

I don't, nor did I say that I did. I said that my level of respect for people is low. That being said, I am open minded and give people the benefit of the doubt if they want to change my views. I was simply trying to say that I don't respect people until they earn it.

When you read the sub-forum title, what part of "Off-Topic" did you not understand?

Of course you don't want it brought up. Logic makes you feel uncomfortable because it undermines your worldview.

Obviously not. Nice try tho, I like how you say specific things and then say you don't believe the things you said. You're cute.

I did. ..and yes they fucking do deserve it.
To paraphrase Bill Maher:
The catholic church has a much longer, more illustrious, and more terrible history of institutional rape, executions, murder, and hatred than the nazi's. People seem to be concerned that the new pope is a nazi, when they should be concerned that this nazi guy is a catholic.

Even today, all over the world, catholic priests touch little boys, and various sects of various religions are full of similarly disturbing stories. It's funny how those who dost protest too much are often the very people who commit the most egregious crimes.

To be absolutely crystal clear, I think Jesus was an alright guy. He went around being revolutionary and espousing views that were at once transcendent and realistic. He was persecuted by those who were afraid of his message and the empowerment of the meek. There is not a lot that he is credited with saying that I disagree with. If he was alive today, I would probably follow his path. Whether or not he is the son of god, whether or not he ever claimed to be.. ..I have to cast dispersions, because there is absolutely no physical evidence of any such thing, and all writings about him were from LONG after his death.

I have said in this thread that I respect the morals of the stories of the bible and the various other holy books (except maybe the book of mormon, joe smith was a fruitcake.. ..lol.. ..oh, and dianetics, L.R.R. Hubbardkein is a great sci fi author, but people took his fruity little club WAY too seriously). I think there is a lot that people can learn from these stories, and I truly believe that the original authors wrote these stories to be taken with a grain of salt, not literally. The organizations that came after were involved with power struggles and corruption to a degree that has NEVER been equaled in any area ever.

I'm seriously not trying to diss you for your beliefs dude, and if you read my posts instead of skimming them, you would know that. Seriously, your personal relationship with a higher power is none of my business, and as an agnostic I do not claim to know what is right. Your view has an equal chance of being true as anyone elses as far as I'm concerned, and it very well may be that a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father created existence. Who knows?
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This is why I didn't wany to respond to any of this, Imo this whole rant you just wrote is pure ignorance. You just feed for a good debate, its your way or no way.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:14 PM
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I think he went at it fairly well. It's better than most of the drivel people say in OOC rife with ignorance.

"lol ur god is a man in the sky" and such...

I am by no means a religious man. I just find anyone arrogant enough to say they know the ultimate workings of the universe, and existence itself, is fucking retarded.
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Imo this whole rant you just wrote is pure ignorance.
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I am by no means a religious man. I just find anyone arrogant enough to say they know the ultimate workings of the universe, and existence itself, is fucking retarded.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:29 PM
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This.
I never said mine was right, pointing out the fact that YOU targeted a specific group of people saying what YOU believe. I was defending the apposing side is all no one needs to be harassed.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:34 PM
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I never said mine was right, pointing out the fact that YOU targeted a specific group of people saying what YOU believe. I was defending the apposing side is all no one needs to be harassed.
While I can respect what you are saying now, and will take it as face value and not hold your previous words against you in my future interactions with you, it would seem that this statement is in conflict with your previous statements. Can't we all just get along?
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:42 PM
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So much hate and intolerance. Reminds me of people *in my family* (cry) who constantly put down other people because they believe in god or don't believe in god. Or because the are vegetarian. Or because they eat meat. Or because they are a Democrat. Or because they are a Republican.

WTF is wrong with people that they feel like they HAVE to judge others or they don't feel complete?

I f*cking can't stand intolerant people!!! (<-- intentional irony, laugh)
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:55 PM
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I f*cking can't stand intolerant people!!! (<-- intentional irony, laugh)
There are two things I can't stand in this world: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:58 PM
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While I can respect what you are saying now, and will take it as face value and not hold your previous words against you in my future interactions with you, it would seem that this statement is in conflict with your previous statements. Can't we all just get along?

I apologize for snapping at you and calling you ignorant, I just took the first picture quote a little to the heart. You could of worded your views a little differently, I also could of replayed to this with alot cooler headed.
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