So how about some variance

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Farzo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Total bs.

Tune willingly PLed me at one point in MM and helped pull a SoulFire mob for me loooooooong before I joined Nihilum.

Long before I knew who he was too: never gave off any elitist vibes or shit talk.

All I did was ask him nicely and he said sure nps.

Terrible liar Jib.

P.s. it was acts like this that swayed me towards Nilly when Az alts were busy fungi killing me coz they sucked dick at end game content....lets get that in to perspective please.

P.s.s. another nilly player gave me a very nice paladin weapon too, after another nilly player ported me to gfay while this player ran to gfay to give it to me.

P.s.s.s another nilly player used to group with me in com/sola (had a massive 6-8 gained level group in sola) and he gave me pretty much all the drops since my gear sucked. ( and for the record not once was azreal or server history mentioned in probably 8-10 hrs of grouping)

All these decent acts of kindness long before my app for nilly got posted.

Let's not forget all the help Drakar has given me too.

To be fair also not all help came from nilly:
Flexin helped me too! Some random dude gave me some good stuff then went all bipolar or something too and an Azrael bound warrior/druid did too.

With all the above mentioned it would be a large part of the reason I still play, and assuming other new players too.

@jib - Now you see no one who logs in for more than 2-4 hours a week wants to join a guild with a proganda level so high that Kimmy from North Korea would be proud of.

Vegemite

I'm glad your not totaly drinking the Nihilum coolaid. The reason Tune plvled you was because Nihilum really needed more people at the time. It wasn't because it was out of the kindness of his heart. Tune would farm anyone not in Nihilum constantly back in the day. Tune has rallied more people to the resistances banner than most of Nihilum combined. I'm not saying Tune is a bad person at all. In fact hes probably a decent fellow. I personally have never had any issue with him, but he did those nice things because Nihilum was loosing and they just needed warm bodies to throw at the resistance.

A lot of what Jib said about Nihilum griefing new players was true even if you havn't been on the server long enough to see it.

P.s.s.s.s Sorry to bring this up because I don't want to make this into a "Im a good person" kinda thread. Pikrib tagged Azrael at the time gave your Oasis group weapons, Buffs, some of my time plvling and resses (when some dick trained specs). I think I ressed ya on the side once after I met ya (I can't confirm this I res alot of people).

[Kergan]

I see a bright future ahead for Hokuten, considering we're debating who has more alts parked in it. I'd say somewhere between 20-30% of that entire guild is an Az/Nihilum alt lol.

[Jib]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see a bright future ahead for Hokuten, considering we're debating who has more alts parked in it. I'd say somewhere between 20-30% of that entire guild is an Az/Nihilum alt lol.

best part is i know who all the nihilum alts are i just choose to leave them in to counter spy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vegemite

I'm glad your not totaly drinking the Nihilum coolaid. The reason Tune plvled you was because Nihilum really needed more people at the time. It wasn't because it was out of the kindness of his heart. Tune would farm anyone not in Nihilum constantly back in the day. Tune has rallied more people to the resistances banner than most of Nihilum combined. I'm not saying Tune is a bad person at all. In fact hes probably a decent fellow. I personally have never had any issue with him, but he did those nice things because Nihilum was loosing and they just needed warm bodies to throw at the resistance.

A lot of what Jib said about Nihilum griefing new players was true even if you havn't been on the server long enough to see it.

P.s.s.s.s Sorry to bring this up because I don't want to make this into a "Im a good person" kinda thread. Pikrib tagged Azrael at the time gave your Oasis group weapons, Buffs, some of my time plvling and resses (when some dick trained specs). I think I ressed ya on the side once after I met ya (I can't confirm this I res alot of people).

So is killing a player considered griefing now or what? Sure Tune did the whole PVP board farming thing, but he'd kill you once and move on. Wasn't like he was corpse camping you, exp lossing you, killing you on a supertwink like Mrbigs (Azrael character) or other things you could actually consider grief.

But after he got banned for tab targeting someone in mass PVP (a rule which was changed later on) he pretty much stopped that PVP all together. I think he felt he was a target for the staff because so many people whined about him PVPing all the time. So this was months and months ago now.

Before I was tagged or anyone in Nihilum knew who I was, I saw the way the server was. I was killed naked on CR, right after rezzes, trained for exp loss....all by Azrael. I ate my death from Tune in CoM at 52 like everybody else, was not a big deal. The best was Stasis killing me 10 seconds after I got rezzed because I had died to a mob and I had the gall to accept a rez from a Nihilum cleric. I didn't whine about it, but when one guild is killing you on CR and after rezzes and the other guild is helping you CR and giving you rezzes the choice ain't that tough bro. You guys can cry about the nutswinging, blubieness and whatever else you want but the fact of the matter is Azrael does our recruiting for us by shitting up the forums and ooc constantly, treating new players like shit and basically being a bunch of greasy assholes in game.

But hey, let's change the server rules so they can compete while still acting like assholes to everyone, instead of being Nihilum doormats because they can't recruit a raid force to challenge us...that will be great for R99.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best part is i know who all the nihilum alts are i just choose to leave them in to counter spy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you've already kicked out like 3 people who were "spies" who actually weren't. Pretty soon you won't have a guild left unless you leave the spies in.

[Genedin]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

Yeah ok.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd also like to add that I'd feel bad for Hokuten/disappointed in Nihilum if it wasn't for the fact that the recruitment thread basically declares war on Nihilum. Would fully expect my guild to get shit on if I did that.

[Jib]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

Keep in mind Tune is the guild leader of Nhilum and he sets the example for all the rest of his members.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep in mind Tune is the guild leader of Nhilum and he sets the example for all the rest of his members.

Yeah.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd also like to add that I'd feel bad for Hokuten/disappointed in Nihilum if it wasn't for the fact that the recruitment thread basically declares war on Nihilum. Would fully expect my guild to get shit on if I did that.

[Cheesypoof]

This is back before the PnP So Tune did some CCing bugging mobs and corpses etc. After he ate a ban or two he finally backed off. I'm not calling it grief because I was never griefed, but I believe Rexx(?) even used the grief word on Tune in the past.

Usually you can trust people who have not eaten bans in the past.

Don't trust the people who have been banned before.