Alternatives to variance to increase competition (veterans and relevant only)

[Mac Drettj]

Ya all us working class people waiting for a bat phone to log in and help 20 people pvp at 10am. If only 20 showed up for morning repop thats because the other 20 didnt take a day off, not because they are sitting at the computer waiting.

Stop finding excuses and play ever quest if you don't want to raid don't raid. If you want to pvp then go pvp.

Excuses and server rule changes won't change whether you have fun or not.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Quiet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server population never crosses 250, yet over 1000 people appear on those boards.

That actually sounds low to me. That means at peak times 1/4 of the people that have logged in within the last month are all on at that time. That actually points towards people not playing that many different characters in my opinion.

Maybe people just play more than I realize.

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ya nilly got some real sickos like vaporize who have at least half a dozen geared out level 60 characters

when colgate dies in mass pvp i can log on a naked level 57 bard w/ a mistmoore drum l o l

This is true. A few sickos have 14 classes In raid loot.

The rest like myself have 1 main and some alts w a few planar pieces.

[Quiet]

Yes, no mistake I do not support variance as it only caters to the most dedicated of players who will sit in the game through entire 12 hour windows and not move and I miss the competition of raids and the mass pvp.

Sim repops are ok but in reality it leaves 1 guild scrambling for a few scraps while the other takes the main targets. Sure you got Inny, Fay, maybe Talendor but all the other mobs, VP, taken.

The truth is either the server needs a fresh wipe with everyone playing from the beginning, or they need to do exactly as on blue and create a rotation for mobs. The gear gap is huge currently, there is no pvp for high end mobs and so the idea that giving mobs to the 2nd tier guild will cost pvp fights is idiocy because there isn't any pvp for mobs anyways. What needs to be done is allow a 2nd guild the chance to get uncontested pixels so that it creates a strong and viable 2nd guild, then and only then will they be able to show up and do legit contesting.

Otherwise the 2nd guild will continue to be significantly weaker, lose mobs to the higher end guild and the balance will always be one sided. At least handing out pixels to lower guild gives people a reason to log in, to level up and to go after pixels. I'd be as drastic to say that if you give a 2nd tier guild pixels and a person leaves that 2nd tier guild, GMs strip their characters, simply to avoid exploiting this. Its a horrible concept but its the type of drastic measure that needs to be done at this point.

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[Quiet]

Can anyone imagine what Checkraise could have done if Red Dawn has been given 3 months straight of at least 1 full set of raid content per week uncontested? There would still be pvp, plenty of PVP as there is now and numerically its supported by Elderan's numbers, pvp happens regardless. But by now RD would be fighting for the mobs they wanted extra and would never have needed to drink Nizzar's ball juice. You take that and add in no loss of exp modifier and we'd have a 2-3 guild server with pvp rampaging all week long. Quality, even, fair pvp too not a bunch of gank fests. Because when gear evens out, skill becomes the deciding factor.

[Mac Drettj]

Or u could grow a pair and do something more than forum post about how unfair it is

[Eslade]

I need to reevaluate my life. I think I agree with quiet...

[Quiet]

2 Sets per week of mobs 1 contestable, 1 not. GM Sanctioned with them watching every move. One attempt at grief and account banned 1 month no bs, no lawyering. Sorry Nihilum you've had 2 years of non-contested or barely contested you have more level 60s in raid gear then the rest of the server put so you take the short end of the stick in favor of server health and allowing some competition to grow. Then after a few months when a guild catches up. Gloves come off and they can have at each other twice a week for pixels.

Its better then whining about a bunch of strategies that will not work. This all but promises another guild can and will grow and gear. The exceptionally harsh penalties for interference and for sneaking your Nihi alt 0012 in to only bail out later, or using them as a spring board should be at best a solid deterrent. People will slip past occasionally but for the most part anyone deguilding and joining Nihi or a similar lawyer type guild will find themselves with a cool naked 60. Anyone who has any interest in allowing a server growth or maintaining should agree with this.

[Not Salem]

Funny HB is saying we could of tool CT today because Nilly showed up with 20. If we Did manage to get it there would be 45+ Nili at the next Trakanon spawn. See Azraels 1 - 25. Thanks for the tip tho ill consider it while I click my crown of rile