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Old 07-26-2010, 02:45 PM
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No, DA and IB seldom fail the roll call which is one of the reasons that other guilds had stopped trying to fight them for spawns. That system doesn't work either and I too think it's stupid and needs to go, but at least it provides a check and actually forces them to be active, or at least some of them.
well thats all i wanted to hear. Sorry for indirectly saying your mother had a wideset vagina, but it was the spirit of the flame that got into me.

All i wanted was you saying the system doesn't work and is stupid. (b/c i think any logical person would say this is ineffective). Good intention, bad result. g4 summit ?
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:49 PM
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I see. Well. In theory you could see the mob pop, call 30, and then call 1 minute instantly, thus eliminating the 30 minute timer altogether, if you are not there the SECOND (literal second) the mob spawns.

Thats still pretty lame for a mob with a window the size of Skope's mom's vagina. Because it favors the non-possessory party. The people entitled to the camp need 15 UNAFK PEOPLE, but the people looking to remove the entitlement need 1, the person to track the mob, and call the 30 and rollcall simultaneously. Sure you need 15 in the zone, but how is that fair? I guess you could call 30 and roll instantly right back, and keep going back and forth until someone finally gets 15 on in a minute..
You need 15 active people in order to be able to roll call, since a roll call failure will result in an instant roll call by the party who failed the call. Think of it like a queue, you may well be able to ask the guy behind you to hold your place, but you better bloody be there when your place comes up for the front of the queue.

If you call 30, you cannot then roll call, since the 30 acknowledges uncontested claim to the mob - a roll call is contesting the claim.

And here's something to consider: when these rules were made nobody believed anybody would be stupid enough to start a camping war...
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:50 PM
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I still think 3day spawns with mobs on rotation would be better for everyone.
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it's like you make the atomic bomb (server) and you don't want to let other countries (guilds) have nuclear secrets (under the radar information). it's gm's business and no one else's or else everyone gets nuked. letting Iran or North Korea beta test and keep the successful nukes, makes other countries uncomfortable.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:53 PM
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I still think 3day spawns with mobs on rotation would be better for everyone.
Me too. We should divide the rotation based on how many gods your guild got in the last 3 months.

kkthnxbye.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:54 PM
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I still think 3day spawns with mobs on rotation would be better for everyone.
Ya too many people trying to be hardcore on a EMU instead of just trying to enjoy some classic raids and content.

Raids on p1999 have almost become a matter of life and death these days.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:56 PM
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Me too. We should divide the rotation based on how many gods your guild got in the last 3 months.

kkthnxbye.
Better yet we should only allow guilds to raid that was formed in the first WEEK of the server starting!

Don't be stupid.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:57 PM
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You need 15 active people in order to be able to roll call, since a roll call failure will result in an instant roll call by the party who failed the call. Think of it like a queue, you may well be able to ask the guy behind you to hold your place, but you better bloody be there when your place comes up for the front of the queue.

If you call 30, you cannot then roll call, since the 30 acknowledges uncontested claim to the mob - a roll call is contesting the claim.

And here's something to consider: when these rules were made nobody believed anybody would be stupid enough to start a camping war...

Why cant you? you can indict a ham sandwich it doesnt mean the charges would stick. Why cant you roll right back at someone ?

So you can't roll call if you call 30 ? so the mob is up, you roll call, rather than 30 ?

So you can't roll if you call 30, but you can call 30 after a roll ?

Back to my original statement. Stupid.
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:04 PM
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Why cant you? you can indict a ham sandwich it doesnt mean the charges would stick. Why cant you roll right back at someone ?

So you can't roll call if you call 30 ? so the mob is up, you roll call, rather than 30 ?

So you can't roll if you call 30, but you can call 30 after a roll ?

Back to my original statement. Stupid.
I thought you were some kind of lawyer, read it again.
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:07 PM
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Better yet we should only allow guilds to raid that was formed in the first WEEK of the server starting!

Don't be stupid.
I think stupid is trying to enjoy some classic raids and content without the classic competition.

Seriously, if you want to gear up and do all this stuff without competition: EZ server is that way -->.
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