current raid rules...
 

Posted by Bumamgar
The last thread was locked but I think it goes without saying , that it is not Ektar's, nor anyone else's responsibility to make sure you know the raid rules. As a guild leader for a raiding guild, it is entirely on you to make sure you know that stuff before hand. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it.

Here you go, for next time. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8150

And as far as the "Additional rules"

You, WI, failed the roll call and still got the nagafen rights, yet ANOTHER reason why these dumbass rules dont work. And I hope the GMs would do much as they have done when other guilds have broken the same rules.

Want a REAL suggestion. Let any guild call a roll call at ANY given point in the cycle to another guilds raid force. This roll call may only happen once every 2 hours, and is to be timestamped each time. If the guild who loses that roll call wishes to continue to try and camp the mob, they have to wait 1 hour to re-roll call the first guild.

24 ACTIVE People to call roll call. 24 ACTIVE to respond. 60 second window. Why 24 people? 4 groups should be enough to kill any target, having less could produce problems for certain fights. Rather then have different rules for different zones, make it all the maximum.

Doing so will enable ANY raid guild to walk in any zone, call for roll, and have the ability to sweep the camp away from them. It will discourage camping for long periods of time, because who wants to have 24 active people on all the time? Right now i bet everytime a mob spawns at 2-7 in the morning; less then 8 people are online at that time. Batphones, Twitters (lulz) whatever is the method to summoning a raid force is what gets everyones attention.

Now. If these rules are broken I think there needs to be a harsh punishment. Not a ban - that's too easy. If IB took a mob when it was not won by them via rollcall - then IB is out of any raid target for an entire week.

Take it as you will, but i think this is a solid system and i would like to thank Kira (Wrei) for bringing it up.

On top of that, given your attitude, I wish we'd rolled your asses instead of letting you get a 30 min timer.

Sorry but that just won't fly. Ib did Inny with 19 people last week, yet we must have 24 in zone to have claim?

Somehow the argument of "I didn't know these were the rules" just doesn't seem to fly.

Either way, you guys shouldn't have called the 30 minute timer at all and simply taken naggy when they failed the roll call.

19 people + how many hasted/charmed planar mobs

Not a bad idea at all.

Rules are rules. It doesn't matter how many days WI sits there, if they fail the roll call (a rule I personally think is crap, btw) then they lose the mob if the other guild can make the roll call.

What is so stupid is that WI didn't get steam rolled even when they failed the roll call, and yet their leadership is whining. The people you are dealing with aren't carebears and, sadly for the wI membership, I think you can expect a very different reaction from now on with IB due to your whine-fest.

The rules have published on this forum so that any player can read them. There are level 1 new players running around that are more familiar with the rules apparently than the WI leadership.

The raid rules on this server are just not good. The players are responsible for this, not the Devs. Change the rules!

Does it matter? But IIRC, none.