Best solo melee class?

[Duik]

If you have more mana you can maybe choose when to med break. It offers choices by allowing you to start lower % but have same mana as your example ranger does.
A suprise pop or wanderer can be dealt with using the extra (useless) mana.

I dunno im just slitballin' here.
Maybe dont dismiss someones opinion out of hand.
If you didnt see that (having more mana offers options), using your logic you are bad.
Disclaimer. There is no disclaimer

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But one of the problems with Velious-era melee gear is it often lacks +WIS/INT and +Mana. This means increasing your max mana on a melee character often comes at the cost of other stats.

Absolutely untrue. There's plenty of itemization issues in Velious, but finding gear that combines AC/STR/HP + INT/WIS/MANA is not one of them.

[Snaggles]

I’ve just never needed much mana. I’ll get more eventually but it’s just not on my radar. Maybe KT crown over the dragon helm?

My personal unbuffed goal is about 2800 hps, 255 MR, about 150 FR and CR without using 0hp SV gear (will also free up bag slots). With 255 MR and bark pots you can survive a lot of fears. 200 self buffed FR and CR feels very durable in ToV even with low hps.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely untrue. There's plenty of itemization issues in Velious, but finding gear that combines AC/STR/HP + INT/WIS/MANA is not one of them.

It is true. You also forgot about resists, those are important stats too.

I can give you some quick examples of good Ranger gear without mana:

1 Spirit Wracked Cord - only 100 HP item in arm slot.

2. Fungi Tunic - Anytime you swap to Fungi you lose all max mana from your chest piece. This is especially painful if you have Robe of Azure Sky.

3. Vindi Boots

4. A lot of popular Ranger weapons like Meljeldin, Earthcaller, Swiftwind, Silver Whip of Rage, Claw of Lightning, Baton of Flame, etc.

BiS/Near BiS gear like Cazic Eye, Ring of Destruction, etc., will have all stats in good amounts, but it takes a long time to fully BiS a character. For most of your character's career you will have gear that doesn't have all stats. You'll also need to swap to resist gear in some scenarios.

Did you read my post on Blood Ember Gauntlets/Tolan Gauntlets hate generation? I have a video there that shows Blood Ember Gauntlets generating a decent amount of hate.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=428

[Cecily]

Right, how could I forget the iconic ranger piece, Boots of the Vindicator:

Boots of the Vindicator

MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Slot: FEET
AC: 30
STR: +5 STA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +50
SV DISEASE: +13
WT: 15.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD SHM
Race: ALL

You should talk about subjects you know about. No I didn't watch your video showing how clickies work you ogre INT weirdo.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, how could I forget the iconic ranger piece, Boots of the Vindicator:

Boots of the Vindicator

MAGIC ITEM NO DROP
Slot: FEET
AC: 30
STR: +5 STA: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +50
SV DISEASE: +13
WT: 15.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD SHM
Race: ALL

You should talk about subjects you know about. No I didn't watch your video showing how clickies work you ogre INT weirdo.

I was thinking of mithril boots, my apologies. It is late.

I find it amusing that you ignored my entire argument and didn't watch the video that proves you are wrong about Tolan Gauntlets because you pounced on a small mistake.

Leveling 3 Rangers to 60 doesn't mean you know everything. You still don't understand clicky agro or mana management it seems.

You should stop assuming you know everything and try to learn once in a while. Calling everybody else stupid doesn't make it true, or make you look good.

[Cecily]

The presumption that you have anything to educate me with regarding a class I've leveled and raided with extensively which you also don't play is, quite frankly, presumptuous, and I don't appreciate it. Not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you from interjecting, so it's really a me problem for engaging with a LLM. And I'm not calling everyone else stupid. I'm calling you stupid, specifically.

I apologize for not responding to your argument that items missing mana means that it's difficult to stack mana with raid gear. That was too ignorant a point to take seriously, and I'm not about to list off every piece of wisdom gear.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The presumption that you have anything to educate me with regarding a class I've leveled and raided with extensively which you also don't play is, quite frankly, presumptuous, and I don't appreciate it. Not knowing what you're talking about has never stopped you from interjecting, so it's really a me problem for engaging with a LLM.

The arrogance here is frankly astounding.

You don't seem to understand the basic concept that many game mechanics in P99 are universal across classes. You don't need to level or play a Ranger to learn basic mana management as a group tank.

After leveling 3 Rangers to 60, you still don't understand how to leverage clickies like Tolan Gauntlets to save mana. You don't need to play a Ranger to understand this concept, it works the same across multiple classes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMz5gpf_EY

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I apologize for not responding to your argument that items missing mana means that it's difficult to stack mana with raid gear. That was too ignorant a point to take seriously, and I'm not about to list off every piece of wisdom gear.

You clearly didn't read my argument. I said repeatedly you can get mana with high end raid gear. But most items in velious are not high end raid gear.

[Cecily]

You keep laboring that point like using slow casting painful to use items are good. That's shaman brain rot from mashing JBBs. That's not an efficient way to play a ranger. And I personally use a Wuoshi shield which casts a quicker and better snare. Ranger agro is generated by flame lick which costs 10 mana. You don't spam clickies for agro on a ranger. I'm perfectly well aware that the concept exists and that it's an option if necessary. I prefer to have a larger mana pool to delay that necessity as long as possible. I've just ignored you about 3 times now suggesting I don't know the concept.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You clearly didn't read my argument. I said repeatedly you can get mana with high end raid gear. But most items in velious are not high end raid gear.

I did read it. I thought your point was idiotic. Yeah I'm specifically talking about raid gear. The fact items exist that don't have wis/mana is not an argument. You also don't need that stat distribution in every slot. Doesn't really merit talking about because it's so trivially true. You are a buffoon.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep laboring that point like using slow casting painful to use items are good. That's shaman brain rot from mashing JBBs. That's not an efficient way to play a ranger. And I personally use a Wuoshi shield which casts a quicker and better snare. Ranger agro is generated by flame lick which costs 10 mana. You don't spam clickies for agro on a ranger. I'm perfectly well aware that the concept exists and that it's an option if necessary. I prefer to have a larger mana pool to delay that necessity as long as possible. I've just ignored you about 3 times now suggesting I don't know the concept.

You really need to read people's posts.

I didn't say to spam Tolan Gauntlets. I said you can click them 1-2 times on an incomming mob to get some free agro for 0 mana before the mob gets to you. You can also click them occasionally to save mana in a scenario where you don't need snap agro. This is basic stuff.

You are the one claiming you are running out of mana in an XP group. Clearly that 10 mana is a problem for you.

Woushi shield and Tolan Gauntlets are both 4 second casts.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I did read it. I thought your point was idiotic. Yeah I'm specifically talking about raid gear. The fact items exist that don't have wis/mana is not an argument. You also don't need that stat distribution in every slot. Doesn't really merit talking about because it's so trivially true. You are a buffoon.

Again, you don't read. Most people do not have full BiS Rangers. The magelo of your Ranger you linked isn't full BiS either. So yes, the majority of non-BiS gear is relevant for most players.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Green:Zalea