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Old 10-01-2012, 01:38 PM
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The main problems with wizard are:

-This game is not kind to anything that uses alot of mana, if you don't have perma Clarity you're screwed. You can't even spare the mana to nuke in a real group let alone add any mediocre utility you possess.

-Wizard low level is like pulling teeth, their nukes are disgustingly bad for what you give up to get them. Being a petless mage for 30 levels sound fun anyone?

-Lack of flowing thought gear hits wizard the hardest.

-Burst is only valuable in raids, xp groups are all about killing non stop.

-Difference in nuke numbers between mage and wizard is not great enough.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:19 PM
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So basically you are saying that a great wizard plays like a gimped enchanter.

Don't get me wrong, Wizards are a great raid class, arguably the single best raid class in Kunark and still very good in Velious, but for XP groups a bit of simple math can convince you that they suck.

If my group was War/Monk/Shm/Enc/Clr and I had a choice between a Paladin and a Wizard, I'd take the Paladin . . . who can do all the same CC a wizard can, while also tanking and letting the Warrior berserk for twice the wizard's dps.

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Warrior for twice the wizards dps.. Lol.. someones never ran pars on a wizard.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:27 PM
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A Wizard with C2 will win a spot in my group over a pali/sk/ 2nd warrior any day 8).
As long as he helps with CCs,interrupts,evacs,dps, opportunity to completely blow up a mob if need be. Who can complain 8)
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:36 PM
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Warrior for twice the wizards dps.. Lol.. someones never ran pars on a wizard.
You don't have to parse a wizard; you can easily compute a fairly mediocre upper bound on their dps (21 mana/tick regen + 11/tick clarity = 32 mana/tick * 3.5 damage/mana for Sunstrike = 114 damage/tick = 20 damage/second). You have a warrior, are you really claiming you can't average 40+ dps in a group? And in a good group the melee will be fighting almost continuously with chain pulls. Not to mention that warrior will provide more spell interrupts than a wizard with bash/kick/crippling blows if berserk for dps.

Of course, as I have stated 50 times in this thread, all of this calculus changes for raiding in general and for Kunark bosses in particular where wizards are absolutely devastating.
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:18 PM
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Wow.. you really outdid yourself 8). I cant even argue. my brain just exploded!
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