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03-22-2012, 11:16 AM
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Put this in the right context before bashing Amelinda. She is trying to solve a problem with limited means available.
That should be respected, but I'll be candid on the idea itself: it would cause more trouble than it's worth (and more than global OOC/auction, I think). I'm not going to get into the fine details of why. Start with the concept of a guild being very different than just letting people communicate, and it would only cover a small subset of the playerbase. Players will still be asking for global channels when the pop is < 300-400. This is besides the point though. We don't need to come up with complicated partial solutions to what could be a 5 minute change. And we don't need to spend hours talking about problems that apply to any chat on the internet (What if they troll it?!?), before those problems even exist and when those problems have easy solutions already anyway (/ignore and filtering are easy enough). After the initial handful of spammers got smashed with the banhammer, the tone would be set and there wouldn't be much moderation required. There is a big elephant in the room that should be acknowledged: Rogean needs to water his plant (let's say it's an ugly cactus) or at least let everyone know if he doesn't plan on doing so. Specifically, the other people who are spending tons of their time dumping fertilizer onto it trying to keep it healthy (this would be Sirken, Amelinda, etc). And yes, I know that analogy is awful. It may be fair to the red players because we truly are a bunch of assholes, but it's not fair to them. I think he created this server as a philanthropic act to give red players a home, but not because he has any sort of passion for this type of EQ server (old school RZ/TZ/VZ/SZ). He didn't play on those servers. I cannot really blame him for not wanting to touch this server since red is a different beast with an unappealing player demographic, but give the reins to Null if that is the case. Let someone who cares do that kind of work. Then we can appreciate Rogean forever for putting this server up, while he isn't held accountable for doing all the other shit. This poll was put up in January http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62364 It has a 65% vote in favor of something (72% with neutrals), on an issue that has been brought up constantly for the past five months on this forum. The "why have you quit?" thread, as gloomy as that is http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=68211 Has a substantial chunk voted for "lack of GM communication", and the other various votes (features, lack of staff, etc) are connected to what could be addressed by the main developer of the server. Not Amelinda, Sirken, etc. They are just the ones eating shit for it because they're actually here. Regardless of what Harrison constantly trolls here with, not all (or even most) players are making these threads just because they are trolls or ungrateful scumbags. These are players on the server who want to make it better and providing that feedback. This is the majority of your playerbase. That developer/player relationship is crucial, even if it is just an occasional "I'm listening" reminder. I'm tired of getting asked by my guildmates "if Rogean cares". I don't know if he does, and it's honestly not my problem to solve. I can't set up a candy trail leading from his Star Wars cantina to this server and hire a bunch of strippers in Leia cosplay to make him want to spend time here. .... or maybe I could [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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03-22-2012, 11:09 AM
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Global ooc is a zerging zerg.
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03-22-2012, 12:27 PM
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Amelinda, a couple things.
1- i DO play on this joke of a server, just because I don't have time to play 12 hours a day like most people doesn't mean I dont at all. 2- although i'm way too lazy to make searyx-esque tl;dr posts, the point behind my two posts in this thread stands. a "global ooc" guild removes a huge portion of whats helpful about global ooc. Let's say random newbie 005 sees red 99 on the server list, thinks it looks cool, and makes a toon. Great! Now they are a level 1 elf in empty gfay, with no one to talk to and no resources wrt to the server. Unless people are auto-joining this guild, it doesn't really solve the problem at all. In general, anyone who is active on the forums/irc will find people to play with regardless. However, i would venture to say that a large portion of new players/people trying out the server aren't active on the forums. Thus, not only do they not have people to play with, but they also know literally nothing about this guild. Happy?
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03-22-2012, 12:45 PM
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You people are missing a very important point here: I am not a server admin. I do not have access to turn on global OOC. Even if I do have access to turn it on...I don't have permission to turn it on. This server is owned by Rogean. Nilbog is another Admin. I am not. I am here day after day, busting my ass to help the players, to take care of shit for the server and trying to help encourage people to play. I called Sirken and sweet talked him into coming back. I go to rogean over and over to get answers. I take care of getting rid of RMTers etc. have spent hours with nilbog pulling trade logs. I do my best and then all some of you can do is sit there on your high horses and cry a fucking river because "Amelinda won't turn on global OOC" "GM's don't care" or whatever else. When you make posts talking shit about me or lack of GM attention it is Quite honestly a big fat slap in the face and is very insulting to me and the time i spend GMing here. It is insulting to Sirken and the time he spends guiding here. I feel very similarly when a select few of you march your sillyness into IRC and start talking shit about me. It's insulting, uncalled for and it's doubtful i'm going to tolerate it anymore. SO prince: To answer your post... I have no way to make them auto-join this guild. I updated the MOTD so it's there when they sign in. I have no way to do more than i've done. either say thank you or keep silent. but don't fucking criticize me for doing my best to meet people halfway until I can get in touch with Rogean. | |||
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03-22-2012, 02:02 PM
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03-22-2012, 12:28 PM
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also unban me from irc good lord
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