team or pure red?

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think red99 has the potential to attract enough players to make teams a viable option. it doesnt necassarely has to be 3teams. just good and evil alligned should fit perfectly. i loved the zone control aspect on sullon back the day!

Please go play wow so the server can tell you who is on your team.

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here we go again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A949JshqvbI

[Cfullard]

If you don't have item loot it supports carebears.

Full range PvP meaning anyone can attack anyone causes griefers and destroys the server. This isn't a garbage VZTZ box 7.0 were talking about here, if you want that bullshit then perhaps you can get one of the many fanboys of VZTZ pvp (casters dominated, pure melee suffered badly as they were griefed) to start that abortion over again. Live PVP never had OOC broadcast because it was stupid and you never got the full picture of what happened. VZTZ pretty much revolved around a bunch of people in two guilds who then griefed the hell out of smaller guilds into they absorbed.

If you are so anti-social that you can't handle being on a server with people you cant kill then again, VZTZ is for you. If you are so screwed with social graces that you can't simply IGNORE someone on your team you do not like you need to get rid of that monitor tan and interact with the real world.

There's a very, very good reason VZ TZ had maybe 60 people on it when people realized that it was the same server as before. You ever heard of the polishing turd arguement? As much as you polish a turd it's still a turd. Make this server a 2 or 3 team server and see where it goes. On a lighter note, this is a chance to do something different, not pull out the abortion that is ANOTHER VZTZ server because we see how well that did, now didn't we?

[Nirgon]

Bugs, cheating, shit that flat out didn't work (strength? hit calculation? armor?) repeating known bugs to get on top without risk of losing ill begotten goods to ensure a stay on top and numerous server wipes were a problem you want to examine, not teams.

[Cfullard]

Again, we've done FFA PvP to death, why would want to make another FFA PvP server? If I want a working PvP FFA I can just go to live, I can't get teams there anymore. And it wasn't because teams didn't work, it's because most of the people there quit the game and the server fell apart due to massive expansions bringing NO pvp to the table due to distance problems.

[Nirgon]

I'll be making an ogre warrior. Let's do teams.

[Billbike]

Originally Posted by Cfullard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, we've done FFA PvP to death, why would want to make another FFA PvP server? If I want a working PvP FFA I can just go to live, I can't get teams there anymore. And it wasn't because teams didn't work, it's because most of the people there quit the game and the server fell apart due to massive expansions bringing NO pvp to the table due to distance problems.

Exactly! Ok simple fix:

1. Divide the limited population in to teams.
2. Make it where they can't talk to the other teams.
3. Give all player models glowing eyes and exaggerated 10 inch elf ears and eyebrows!

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by Cfullard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, we've done FFA PvP to death, why would want to make another FFA PvP server? If I want a working PvP FFA I can just go to live, I can't get teams there anymore. And it wasn't because teams didn't work, it's because most of the people there quit the game and the server fell apart due to massive expansions bringing NO pvp to the table due to distance problems.

Masses have spoken. FFA PVP. And this just in, the live pvp server is complete shit with 17 expansions, this is classic everquest pvp, point negated.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont wanna be on a team with a bunch of douchebags and faggots that i hate, and not be able to kill them and be forced to train them over and over just so i can get rid of them.

Then reroll... worked on SZ.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by solid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To believe this, especially enough to build the server around, you'd have to conveniently ignore all the x-teaming done throughout EQ team pvp history.

Really? All the x-teaming done throughout EQ team PvP history? Name specifics. I spent most of my EQ career on SZ and the only 'x-teaming' done was when a goodie bought an evil bard and trained Fear. That wouldn't fly on red99 as training is going to be illegal.

Originally Posted by solid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lastly, any potential gains from hardcoded comradery (and they're dismal, if at all) are far outweighed by the costs of being forced to ally with people you'd rather not be, and reducing any action you might have w/ them to same team-training. (Which was about the only thing illegal on Sullon, outside of hacking)

If you don't people, then re-roll. Everyone is going to have someone in their guild they would rather not be around, but put up with it because they have other friends they like.

There is a reason why the amount of FFA PvP games coming out are non-existent: It suck.

I will play either way. I just feel that the server population would benefit more from teams.