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Old 01-07-2026, 10:29 PM
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Why move the goalposts? You didn't magically get better. You've never played a rogue. You're terrible at the classes you have played. You post the video evidence yourself. We've seen it. Go away.
As you can see, Samoht continues to lie. I have no idea why he makes things up and claims I was kicked from any guild, for example. Thanks for providing more evidence that you lie on these forums.
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Old 01-07-2026, 10:31 PM
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It speaks for itself that DSM is not in a raiding guild. Or never played a rogue.

He should not be posting in this (or any) thread. End of story.
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Old 01-07-2026, 10:38 PM
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It speaks for itself that DSM is not in a raiding guild. Or never played a rogue.

He should not be posting in this (or any) thread. End of story.
I am currently in Fuse. Another lie. Why do you keep lying?
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Old 01-08-2026, 03:12 AM
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Is this going to be the next "Best 4 person all caster/priest group" thread?

I hope so.
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Old 01-08-2026, 09:31 AM
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Oh, and remember: Dead rogues do 0 dps.
This.

If you're a squishy rogue, Silver Whip just may produce higher damage numbers on fights with heavy AoE. Use a better weapon during disc.

Unfortunately in today's meta with huge numbers its not really an issue. Everyone's just trying to flex the epeen on the meters. Bosses die so insanely fast.

But if you were in a small guild that managed to get a miracle FTE and you were next up on the coth list after the engage team. You bet your ass that whip would be insanely valuable.
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Old 01-08-2026, 11:28 AM
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I dislike it because it's obligate offhand and that's half proc rate. It's really nice for rangers. Truth is what you do doesn't matter. Rogues are a swarm class. You're part of a raid and you're not killing anything solo.. or at least you really really hope you're not. Min maxing might change your total contribution by 1-2%. Maybe 5% over an EC tunnel rogue. So, yes, your survival is your biggest DPS contribution. Any rogue with an epic mainhand will put a large of chunk of damage into anything they live through.
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Old 01-08-2026, 01:02 PM
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Truth is what you do doesn't matter.
pretty much - only time it might matter would be a low numbers engage on an unslowable mob with low cleric count

which...never happens today...hell its been that way for almost 10 years
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Old 01-08-2026, 01:08 PM
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The Silver Whip isn’t an A or S tier item but it’s situationally useful in the way a Dragonebone Club or other weapons aren’t. Not exactly in the spirit of the thread but a rogue forced to “tank” something might benefit from MH’ing it and swapping in a dagger for frontal backstabs; it could also be rotated in with a Locustlure as needed. As you are gearing up, it’s also a solid way to add 25Mr. In our guild these are SUPER cheap (about half the cost of a Kreizen’s Flame).

Again…it doesn’t play into the BiS rogue dps talk and I do not claim to be an expert (I’m not a rogue). I’ve been around to know which rogues top the parses and know which ones don’t, their gear is very similar. It wouldn’t be a horrible impulse buy, even if it stays in your bag 95% the time.
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Old 01-08-2026, 01:17 PM
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Is this going to be the next "Best 4 person all caster/priest group" thread?

I hope so.
Shut up
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Old 01-08-2026, 01:18 PM
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I dislike it because it's obligate offhand and that's half proc rate. It's really nice for rangers. Truth is what you do doesn't matter. Rogues are a swarm class. You're part of a raid and you're not killing anything solo.. or at least you really really hope you're not. Min maxing might change your total contribution by 1-2%. Maybe 5% over an EC tunnel rogue. So, yes, your survival is your biggest DPS contribution. Any rogue with an epic mainhand will put a large of chunk of damage into anything they live through.
So you suggest RB / Croaking dirk cos croaking dirk is best weapon to get you to 46, after that simply primary epic for the win (so throw CD in sec)? Collect DKP, twink Ranger?
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