Casters in velious

[Genedin]

Does it not seem like most of these gearing assumptions are based upon someone having most of their slots filled with velious raid-gear? To have +2k HP and tons of resists, you'd have to have almost every armor piece replaced right?

[Malevz]

Problem is not casters, problem is AC does not reduce damage, or does not appear to. So when a melee hits a caster it's like they have 0 AC.

[Boeing B-29 Superfortress]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is not casters, problem is AC does not reduce damage, or does not appear to. So when a melee hits a caster it's like they have 0 AC.

AC has been upgraded to make a difference. Once velious levels of AC+ATK+HP come in, everyone NOT raiding velious will really start feeling the difference snowball

[Malevz]

Sounds classic. I remember paladins and SK's killing full groups of mid/upper 50s.

[awfal]

Originally Posted by Pumped [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i played on rallos and can honestly say you didnt resist any nukes until you were vex thal geared with 200+ unbuffed

UNBUFFED

spell reductions are stupid and not classic, but then again this is a custom server anyways and no one cares.

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. only the top pvpers would even wear resist gear, no one wanted to lose their pixels. rarely would you ever see anyone in droppable gear unless they were deep inside a zone.

you also didn't have people running around with bags full of pumice, levi cloaks, etc - most people didn't even know what a pumice did back then.

nevertheless, in velious casters receive hp upgrades too, and there are plenty of strategic locations for casters to pvp in velious.

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[Malevz]

Originally Posted by awfal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. [/IMG]

He's right, on vallon you full resisted like 95% of mage nukes, wizard draughts, druid nukes, etc. That's why necros and wizards were more feared, -200 and -300 spells were nasty. I ran around with 120-130 mr unbuffed on my rogue and you were basically unsnareable and unnukable outside of lures. Rains weren't worth casting either. By comparison casters have it pretty easy on red99.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Malevz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is not casters, problem is AC does not reduce damage, or does not appear to. So when a melee hits a caster it's like they have 0 AC.

Actually, I have kind of a pet theory here. I'm betting that stuff like % to hit, damage distribution, ATK vs AC etc are all reused from the PVE code. So L60 melee attacks are treated the same as L60 NPC attacks, and a L60 NPC is supposed to stomp your face in unless your AC is truly epic.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by awfal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this statement is just not true. i resisted most spells with 130+ resists.

spells hit for full damage on 98% of the rallos population because people were NOT WEARING GEAR. classic/kunark no-drop items didn't have much for resist on them, so you had casters/melee running around with 60-80 resists. only the top pvpers would even wear resist gear, no one wanted to lose their pixels. rarely would you ever see anyone in droppable gear unless they were deep inside a zone.

you also didn't have people running around with bags full of pumice, levi cloaks, etc - most people didn't even know what a pumice did back then.

nevertheless, in velious casters receive hp upgrades too, and there are plenty of strategic locations for casters to pvp in velious.

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Strategic pvping at their bind point.

[Genedin]

first person pvping huh? is this how you still do it?

[Malevz]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, I have kind of a pet theory here. I'm betting that stuff like % to hit, damage distribution, ATK vs AC etc are all reused from the PVE code. So L60 melee attacks are treated the same as L60 NPC attacks, and a L60 NPC is supposed to stomp your face in unless your AC is truly epic.

That would make a lot of sense. Playing a rogue I used to take apart casters like nothing, but here it's far beyond that. I remember fighting warriors and hitting for like 10-20-30, a warrior with his back in the corner and a 2hander would take me apart with a few hits while I was lucky to dent them, SK's and Paladins were difficult with their AC too.

Here... something is off. Your theory is probably correct.