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Old 05-14-2015, 01:05 PM
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Ogre is by far the best at 60. High stam/frontal stun immunity are still very useful at 60, whereas regen isn't very important once you have torpor.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:39 PM
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As your getting stunned waiting for slow to land, are you not losing more hp than you would as Ogre? making regen pointless.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:40 PM
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As your getting stunned waiting for slow to land, are you not losing more hp than you would as Ogre? making regen pointless.
No because you're counting seconds between bashes like a pro.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:47 PM
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As your getting stunned waiting for slow to land, are you not losing more hp than you would as Ogre? making regen pointless.
This begs to question why you haven't rooted, or had your pet tank. Also all those cases where you're in a duo or group where someone else is tanking. Or on any raid where you're not tanking. Even when you are tanking bash is rather infrequent and it doesn't hit every time. Push interrupts more than bash in my experience playing, even when corner tanking. Which Ogres get interrupted by.

The situations where an ogre is facing a bash are far less frequent than those where a Shaman would not be at full HP and would be actively be regenning.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:18 PM
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As your getting stunned waiting for slow to land, are you not losing more hp than you would as Ogre? making regen pointless.
If you're tanking an unslowed mob, you're doing it wrong.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:55 PM
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All great points. Good to know shaman are still quite powerful. I was mainly worried I was going to miss out on something huge like key gear by going with an Iksar. Is JBB worth re-rolling as a troll for or do you guys think I'm good?

For context, I'm mostly grouping with buddies who are playing Iksar Necro, Wood Elf Ranger, Half Elf Bard, and Barbarian rogue so we have good and evil factions regardless.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:27 PM
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All great points. Good to know shaman are still quite powerful. I was mainly worried I was going to miss out on something huge like key gear by going with an Iksar. Is JBB worth re-rolling as a troll for or do you guys think I'm good?

For context, I'm mostly grouping with buddies who are playing Iksar Necro, Wood Elf Ranger, Half Elf Bard, and Barbarian rogue so we have good and evil factions regardless.
JBB is lazymode option.

Once you get 60/Torpor, you can DPS better by spending time doing DoTs and canning back the mana I'm pretty sure.

IMO it's not worth rerolling over. Iksars look way cooler too.
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Old 05-14-2015, 02:41 PM
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Once you get 60/Torpor, you can DPS better by spending time doing DoTs and canning back the mana I'm pretty sure.
That's correct.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:00 PM
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JBB is lazymode option.

Once you get 60/Torpor, you can DPS better by spending time doing DoTs and canning back the mana I'm pretty sure.

IMO it's not worth rerolling over. Iksars look way cooler too.
Iksar can wear this, far superior that JBB

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its better than this too: http://wiki.project1999.com/Chestplate_of_Vindication

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arguably.

It certanly looks fucking boss as shit with the spear. and omg if you manage to get a guise?

surely we all can agree, the best shaman race combo is a dark elf with a robe of azzure sky. That cannot be argued, if it is then you are a bad person.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:30 PM
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surely we all can agree, the best shaman race combo is a dark elf with a robe of azzure sky. That cannot be argued, if it is then you are a bad person.
curious how many iksar shamans have a guise. do any have guise + robe?
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