Gear and playtime don't give an advantage.

[dav]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This can be true. But you either need zerg force or some combination of skill and gear with fewer numbers.

You would be surprised just how much of both there are in the raid scene. Pick your side wisely when jumping in IMO.

[Gaffin']

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only exception I can think of is dueling Gaffin. Then it's 100% gear.

[Motec]

Originally Posted by dav [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've noticed Taken at least beginning to attempt things lately. Unfortunately the non-classic server variance is THE benchmark that needs to be met and passed in order to raid competitively here.

It's not player skill, or gear, or any of that other junk because these are 32k mobs. They all help, and most raid guilds expect their players to have them, but the challenge is in tracking/poopsocking and getting enough like-minded individuals to do the same.

That's the real challenge on p99.

Taken = TMO though, hence TMO give taken guys VP keys, free VP loot, take them in for kills. In exchange, Taken poopsock shit mobs for TMO to deny other guilds like BDA. Ultimate feeder guild.

TMO and Taken is what, 120-140 active person agreement covering world spawns sometimes?

[Motec]

Originally Posted by dav [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using last VS as an example I agree, that was quite the joke. The windows was what.. 6, maybe 7 days thanks to extensions? Think about, guilds had people there tracking for the first half, and then for the second half (late window and extensions) 3 guilds had typically 5-10 people each just sitting there, waiting for the fucker to pop.

I don't know of any casual guild in their right mind that would put up with something like that.

I put in 200+ hours over the last two VS's easily, and about 5-6k plat in peridots alone.

Thats one person, out of maybe 10-15 from 3-4 guilds there at all hours. Two Venril spawns is responsible for 3-5000 man hours of staring at a fucking wall. Welcome to P1999.

[pasi]

EQ has got to be the only MMORPG where I would rather have a downright terrible player who plays 10 hours a day rather than a very good player who plays 5 hours a day (until GoD at least). It's really no fault of the game, just an effect of content developed in the infancy of the genre.

Playtime is by far the most valuable characteristic of a raider since there really isn't much of an output difference between bad and good.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken = TMO though, hence TMO give taken guys VP keys, free VP loot, take them in for kills. In exchange, Taken poopsock shit mobs for TMO to deny other guilds like BDA. Ultimate feeder guild.

TMO and Taken is what, 120-140 active person agreement covering world spawns sometimes?

Lawl. Wrong, wrong, wrong... Oh! Also wrong.

[Motec]

I agree, its wrong.

Absolutely wrong for the health of the server, but thats shot anyway so go for it. Wrong or not.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I put in 200+ hours over the last two VS's easily, and about 5-6k plat in peridots alone.

Thats one person, out of maybe 10-15 from 3-4 guilds there at all hours. Two Venril spawns is responsible for 3-5000 man hours of staring at a fucking wall. Welcome to P1999.

Damn 5,000 man hours. Assume min wage or some average wage of $20/hour, we're talking VS is worth $50,000 per spawn or something in man hours? damn. This sort of analysis really reinforces my idea that I have to quit this game.

[uygi]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken = TMO though, hence TMO give taken guys VP keys, free VP loot, take them in for kills. In exchange, Taken poopsock shit mobs for TMO to deny other guilds like BDA. Ultimate feeder guild.

They actually haven't really been working together that I've seen for a while. Taken successfully petitioned TMO for training at Inny a few weeks ago, and the following pop Taken got the kill.

[Retti_]

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