please explain the exp hybrid penilty

[webrunner5]

Yeah, whoever came up with the silly ass penalty formula must have been making some damn good money to buy some serious drugs back then.

At least they drop off when veliious ever comes out.

[Dirtnap]

There used to be an exp split calculator that was floating around the forum for awhile. If you can find it, play around with it and see that penalty classes take more of the split of experience in groups. Thus they will level faster than everyone else in that group.

I have experienced this before: I would be getting less than a percent per kill, and the SK I was grouped with was getting around 1.5% per kill. (He was higher level than my ranger. Thus he was getting a bigger split, and leveling faster than me. If we stuck together long enough, he would out level me.)

[Rooj]

I have experienced this before: I would be getting less than a percent per kill, and the SK I was grouped with was getting around 1.5% per kill.

Yes but the SK also needs more EXP to level because he's higher level. A good example is a KC group I had a few weeks ago. Most of the group was 54-55. But we had a level 49 enchanter, who said they were getting amazing EXP. Their split due to their level was probably very small, but they also needed WAY less EXP to level - if they were getting an "even" split of the EXP, they'd be leveling stupidly fast.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There used to be an exp split calculator that was floating around the forum for awhile. If you can find it, play around with it and see that penalty classes take more of the split of experience in groups. Thus they will level faster than everyone else in that group.

I have experienced this before: I would be getting less than a percent per kill, and the SK I was grouped with was getting around 1.5% per kill. (He was higher level than my ranger. Thus he was getting a bigger split, and leveling faster than me. If we stuck together long enough, he would out level me.)

if he was 1 level past a so-called "hell" level, and you were lower than that level, it can happen. Is not because he was hybrid. Is because, for example, he is 46 and you are 44 and Verant devs could not do simple math. It's just another artifact of the misimplemented level curve.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There used to be an exp split calculator that was floating around the forum for awhile. If you can find it, play around with it and see that penalty classes take more of the split of experience in groups. Thus they will level faster than everyone else in that group.

I have experienced this before: I would be getting less than a percent per kill, and the SK I was grouped with was getting around 1.5% per kill. (He was higher level than my ranger. Thus he was getting a bigger split, and leveling faster than me. If we stuck together long enough, he would out level me.)

No, this is not how it works. The Hybrids DO take more exp, but they don't level faster because they require MORE exp to level.

[Dirtnap]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, this is not how it works. The Hybrids DO take more exp, but they don't level faster because they require MORE exp to level.

Like I said, this is how I have seen it work in game with my own eyes. It's not supposed to work that way, but it does.

It doesn't matter who needs more exp to level, each level needs 100% of the bar to be filled. If one person is getting less than 1% per mob, while someone else is getting more than 1% per mob, the second person will always level faster than the first.

The gap will grow and grow until you are far enough apart that you can't exp on the same mobs anymore.

EDIT: The only way I see the way it is being a postitive is if the highest penalty group member is the lowest level member in the group. That way you get a pretty even split. If the highest level member has a bad penalty, then they can take 30-50% of the split. (I have been in groups where the SK tank was taking 50% per mob, and since I was the lowest level I was getting 4%.)

[iRFNA]

but if you've got like 3 slivers of a cherry pie but i've got like half of a pumpkin pie the pumpkin pie weighs more but it's smaller around right so the cherry pie is a halfling and th epumpkin pie is me i think one of those huge pumpkin pie pieces would be more filling than the halfling even if the pupmkin pie is asmaller

[Tasslehofp99]

The person with the MOST total Exp points takes the largest cut of the group exp split. Since hybrids require more exp points to achieve each level, they will most usually have more total exp than non-hybrids.

For example if a SK requires 40% more exp to level, they will always have 40% more total exp points than a non-SK of the same level. Therefore if they group with this person, the SK will always be taking more exp.


why does everyone care so much about exp penalty on here? lol just play the fucking game and enjoy your adventures to lvl 60.

[Rooj]

It's like I always say: hybrid penalty is the least of your worries in an EXP group. Adding more members, not having enough mobs to kill, bad players or badly geared players affect your exp WAY more than the EXP penalties. I leveled my Iksar SK pretty freaking quick, frankly.

[kaev]

wow, people in this thread are even better at :math: than the Verant devs of old