Best solo melee class?

[shovelquest]

Did Kjs86z2 say that Cecily said flowing thought was bad, or are you just making a bad faith straw man argument.

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Kjs86z2 say that Cecily said flowing thought was bad, or are you just making a bad faith straw man argument.

Kjs86z2 did not make the claim that Cecily said flowing thought was bad.

Loramin is just doing his normal routine of randomly attacking posters in a random thread. Often times he barely reads the thread/posts, so he doesn't undertstand what is happening. That is why his attacks generally don't make sense.

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bro not so bright on this one

mana is a shit stat, flowing thought is more betterer

Max mana should be a lower priority for sure. When trying to maximize kills per hour, you generally aren't meditating to full mana before the next kill, so extra max mana is often unused. Flowing Thought is especially nice in scenarios where you are playing for hours at a time.

Max mana is more useful when doing solo artist kills, as you are starting the fight at Max HP/Mana. Often times the fight isn't going to last that long, so Flowing Thought isn't giving you a lot of mana in that single fight. But this obviously depends on the fight and the strategy. Bow kiting an Ice Burrower is going to take a long time lol.

[loramin]

Yeah, he didn't just make an entire post that said nothing except "mana bad, FT good" in response to Cecily saying "mana good". I'm the one who can't read [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[shovelquest]

So he disagrees how good mana is, and thinks flowing thought should be highly prioritized.

Yes: learn how to read if you're going to make insulting accusations.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So he disagrees how good mana is, and thinks flowing thought should be highly prioritized.

Yes: learn how to read if you're going to make insulting accusations.

This is correct. There is no reason to assume Kjs86z2 is claiming Cecily said "Flowing Thought is bad" when Kjs86z2 literally didn't make that claim.

Kjs86z2 should have worded his post less agressively, but an agressive post does not imply it has hidden and unspoken claims.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So he disagrees how good mana is, and thinks flowing thought should be highly prioritized.

Yes: learn how to read if you're going to make insulting accusations.

Here, I'll try to break it down in a way you can understand.

When I say "the guy behind THJ is a douche", a normal rational/logical argument against it is to say something like "no, he's not a douche: he helps orphans learn to read" (or some other argument that's pertinent to what I said).

If you don't have a rational/logical argument to make, you'll instead say something like "the guy behind THJ isn't a douche, and America is awesome!" Now, I didn't say anything at all about America, but by throwing that in you make it sound like I did, and like you're rebutting the point (I didn't make).

Can I explain some more things slowly for you in bad analogies about THJ? Since that's just about all that you post about these days.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here, I'll try to break it down in a way you can understand.

When I say "the guy behind THJ is a douche", a normal rational/logical argument against it is to say something like "no, he's not a douche: he helps orphans learn to read" (or some other argument that's pertinent to what I said).

If you don't have a rational/logical argument to make, you'll instead say something like "the guy behind THJ isn't a douche, and America is awesome!" Now, I didn't say anything at all about America, but by throwing that in you make it sound like I did, and like you're rebutting the point (I didn't make).

Can I explain some more things slowly for you in bad analogies about THJ? Since that's just about all that you post about these days.

Now Loramin is bringing off-topic nonsense about a different server (THJ) into a thread about P99 melee classes.

It would be a lot easier if he just read people's posts as-is, and admitted when he was wrong.

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im just saying cecily dying on the mana hill is pretty godamn dumb...and the only mana-ish stat that would ever be decent on ranger is FT

and hes being a little bitch about it to boot

Dying on that hill is silly, I agree.

[kjs86z2]

im just saying cecily dying on the mana hill is pretty godamn dumb...and the only mana-ish stat that would ever be decent on ranger is FT

and hes being a little bitch about it to boot

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by kjs86z2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

im just saying cecily dying on the mana hill is pretty godamn dumb...and the only mana-ish stat that would ever be decent on ranger is FT

and hes being a little bitch about it to boot

Rangers get two three FT items in this timeline and they're all FT1 and one of them is a shield and another is the Coldain Prayer Shawl. What was your point again? That rangers should get the Eye of Cazic Thule for mana related reasons? Yes, I agree. I also appreciate a larger raw mana pool as the best way for increased sustain because rangers 1) don't get time to sit and 2) are the worst class at meditate besides bard. Thanks for joining DSM on weighing on stuff you have experience to talk about.

I've leveled 3 rangers to 60. You are an obnoxious edge lord who is a raider min/maxer like most peanut-brained MMO players these days. You have played zero rangers.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for joining DSM on weighing on stuff you have experience to talk about.

We do indeed have the experience to discuss these issues!

If this was a typo, and you are saying we don't have experience, please explain how Max Mana, Mana Regen, and Flowing Thought work differently on a Ranger compared to other classes.