<global OOC> guild

[SamwiseRed]

nice lol, i was thinking about making a Global OOC guild back in the day
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=342

[NotFilthed]

i dont get it? whats a guildname have to do with global ooc?

[karsten]

i like the idea in terms of trying to think outside the box with limited choices at her disposal, so although it's not real global ooc it's at least something, I LIKE IT PALS, I LIKE IT

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know how difficult it is to /ignore someone whose name is Illlilililililllilillililliili who is spamming nonstop for hours?

This was a massive problem with global ooc on P99 blue.

You are fucking retarded if you think this won't happen here.

harrison. please don't call names in server chat

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by fiegi 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

terrible

am i being trolled

No. Chuck, after our heart to heart - i'm kind of offended at your response. I do the best with what i'm given. I do not have the ability to turn global OOC on. That is an Admin thing. ALSO this is not my server even though I am the GM. I did take this to rogean again last night but as of yet he has not responded to it.

Originally Posted by Ssleeve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Appreciate the thought though <del>guides</del> GM's trying to help, but if they do have <global OOC> as a guild it should be automatic at char creation.

Some newbs aren't going to petition and what not.

1. I am a GM, not a guide TYVM.
2. I don't have any way to make it automatic.
3. if someone doesn't petition and proceeds to cry that no one bothers to try and do anything to help the server they can kiss my ass.

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey guys I just wanted to let you all know that when you asked for milk I heard you. Here is some cheese.

Nope. More like "I heard you when you said you wanted milk. We are out of milk right now and daddy has the car so you will have to settle for water until I can get in contact with him and have him bring us some milk."

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

typical response to this server, players ask for X, gms give Y

Heartbrand. seriously. shut up. I do the best I can and if you don't like my best then you can either GTFO or quit your bitching that my best isn't good enough. I can only do so much.

Originally Posted by fiegi 2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

will there be a button for me to press to automatically to join <GLOBAL OOC> when i want to use GLOBAL OOC, or do i have to petition and wait for a GM everytime i would like to use GLOBAL OOC

No chuck. you'd have to petition. quit trolling.

Originally Posted by lululalana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what a retarded idea

prince - shut the fuck up. you don't even play here. "Gee Amelinda. i'll behave. let me in IRC, by the way you are a really dumb bitch."

Originally Posted by loserofgame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, this is an unusual solution. Have to admit that, if it's serious, it's kind of neat and I admire the creativity.

I see two major problems with this, however:

1) As earlier stated, unless joining this 'Global OOC' guild is automatic upon character creation, new players may not be able to use this function. This also includes the times when /petitions are not answered(GM's are not robots, and are not available at all hours). This could be fixed, if it's possible to code it so that all new characters join Global OOC by default.

2) Small groups of players who start on the server often enjoy making guilds so that they may play together under their own, unique banner. Some recent examples from red99:

-Tallon Zek
-Meow
-Toof Spittaz
-The Ancient Mariners

Players in these small, new guilds would be unable to make use of the "Global OOC", as they are not in the "Global OOC" guild, even though they are newer players and may benefit from global ooc chat in general. I don't know of a proper workaround for this issue.

Like you, Arzak, I am not a proponent of global OOC. I also recognize that there are inherent downsides to the issue: for example, if the forums are this polluted with trolling/flaming, how then, would a 'forum-like' channel be any better on a server with dynamic chat(that is even harder to police) as opposed to static chat such as here?

That said, I don't feel like the solution you have presented here is adequate. I would rather wish to see the effects of a trial run of global ooc on the server, and if it is TOO terrible, then it can be removed.

I have to work with what I am given. I don't have unlimited free reign on this server. I am the GM but this is still Rogean's server. I can't make a major change like implementing global OOC but I did my very best and provided unguilded people with a way to talk to other people.

If you want to talk in the guild or use it to find groups then make a level 1 and petition to join it.

Is this a perfect solution? no. but it's the best one i have for now.

Originally Posted by lululalana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this idea is like a poster child example of how to take a good idea, remove any possible benefit, and pretend like you are doing something helpful

Prince - you are like the poster child for someone who pretends to be human but really is devoid of all human emotion. if you don't like my ideas and don't like the way i solve problems then get the fuck out.

Originally Posted by hagard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol a+ idea.. Wait no it's not.
Not classic pls remove

I don't know you but i'll still say - if you don't like the way i solve problems then you can either have a constructive instantly implementable (BY ME) option or quit your bitching.

Originally Posted by Salem Orchid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great idea Amelinda, your support is greatly appreciated! I know you are trying to get ooc in (which I'm indifferent too), cool to see you doing the most you can for us, thanks!

Thank you, and you are very welcome. <3

Originally Posted by NotFilthed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont get it? whats a guildname have to do with global ooc?

I created a guild for people to join so they could communicate with each other. this is my "poor man's solution to global OOC"

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i like the idea in terms of trying to think outside the box with limited choices at her disposal, so although it's not real global ooc it's at least something, I LIKE IT PALS, I LIKE IT

Thank you Karsten <3

[SamwiseRed]

I am gonna join this guild and do big thangz. <Global OOC> will have Lguk on farm status in 2 weeks. We dont need ops or lead, we shall overcome all obstacles set before us.

[karsten]

frankly I dont understand why you didnt just take the guildname <Blacks> and use that for the global ooc amirite

[Xantille]

Originally Posted by Amelinda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

prince - shut the fuck up. you don't even play here. "Gee Amelinda. i'll behave. let me in IRC, by the way you are a really dumb bitch."

I don't know why I thought this was so funny.

[Barkingturtle]

Global ooc is a zerging zerg.

[SearyxTZ]

Put this in the right context before bashing Amelinda. She is trying to solve a problem with limited means available.

That should be respected, but I'll be candid on the idea itself: it would cause more trouble than it's worth (and more than global OOC/auction, I think). I'm not going to get into the fine details of why. Start with the concept of a guild being very different than just letting people communicate, and it would only cover a small subset of the playerbase. Players will still be asking for global channels when the pop is < 300-400.

This is besides the point though. We don't need to come up with complicated partial solutions to what could be a 5 minute change. And we don't need to spend hours talking about problems that apply to any chat on the internet (What if they troll it?!?), before those problems even exist and when those problems have easy solutions already anyway (/ignore and filtering are easy enough). After the initial handful of spammers got smashed with the banhammer, the tone would be set and there wouldn't be much moderation required.

There is a big elephant in the room that should be acknowledged: Rogean needs to water his plant (let's say it's an ugly cactus) or at least let everyone know if he doesn't plan on doing so. Specifically, the other people who are spending tons of their time dumping fertilizer onto it trying to keep it healthy (this would be Sirken, Amelinda, etc). And yes, I know that analogy is awful. It may be fair to the red players because we truly are a bunch of assholes, but it's not fair to them.

I think he created this server as a philanthropic act to give red players a home, but not because he has any sort of passion for this type of EQ server (old school RZ/TZ/VZ/SZ). He didn't play on those servers. I cannot really blame him for not wanting to touch this server since red is a different beast with an unappealing player demographic, but give the reins to Null if that is the case. Let someone who cares do that kind of work. Then we can appreciate Rogean forever for putting this server up, while he isn't held accountable for doing all the other shit.

This poll was put up in January
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=62364
It has a 65% vote in favor of something (72% with neutrals), on an issue that has been brought up constantly for the past five months on this forum.

The "why have you quit?" thread, as gloomy as that is
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=68211
Has a substantial chunk voted for "lack of GM communication", and the other various votes (features, lack of staff, etc) are connected to what could be addressed by the main developer of the server. Not Amelinda, Sirken, etc. They are just the ones eating shit for it because they're actually here.

Regardless of what Harrison constantly trolls here with, not all (or even most) players are making these threads just because they are trolls or ungrateful scumbags. These are players on the server who want to make it better and providing that feedback. This is the majority of your playerbase. That developer/player relationship is crucial, even if it is just an occasional "I'm listening" reminder. I'm tired of getting asked by my guildmates "if Rogean cares". I don't know if he does, and it's honestly not my problem to solve. I can't set up a candy trail leading from his Star Wars cantina to this server and hire a bunch of strippers in Leia cosplay to make him want to spend time here.



















































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