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Old 10-03-2011, 02:26 AM
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I get the system, I just don't get why people in range of me that group with people out of range of me receive the protection that the lowbie has.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:28 AM
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I mean just another pointless scenario, a fully geared 50 rolls with a 42, the 42 can attack anyone lower than him without fear of being touched, since it will up the people to the 50's range - I doubt this would happen much, but I do think the favor goes into higher people attacking lower lvls.

Maybe I just need to get used to it w/e going to bed~
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:28 AM
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I got a funny story. So, Cozmonaut (34?) is inside Kelethin, and my Druid friend (14) who is working on tailoring gives Cozmonaut a SOW, and then gets PKed in one huge nuke. I, being in the guys group, jump the hell off Kelethin and book it as fast as I can to Felwithe, tracking Cozmo making sure he isn't ever directly "behind me" but off to the left and behind. This was problematic though since my friend had just given him a SOW, so, I took two really big nukes from him! Anyway, ran to Felwithe and somehow survived.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:34 AM
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Rogean its an issue. today i got attacked by a red but he was in my range so i attacked him back. Then after I fight back as a lowbie all of the sudden I get flagged so I am able to be attacked by people who are 8 levels higher then the guy who is already red to me.... and guess what he had a friend standing there then he starts nuking me and hes like level 47 and im 35... the system will match you with whoever you attack. so if a high level guy attacks but hes still in your range and you fight back... your not in range of +-8 of his level.... The system should not do anything if the person your fighting is in your +-8 range.
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Old 10-03-2011, 02:56 AM
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I'm really torn on this haha, and I cant figure out if I like the system or not.

Literally going to bed I cannot think of any way to make sense of this other than just saying remove dynamic system and putting in infinite range past ice giants/bnb, planes arn't an issue and just hard capping 8 lvl range.

I do like the fact that I can have a buddy who lagged behind in exp and still be able to grp/defend him, and no OOR healing/gimp shit, IMO Lethdar will have a solution.
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:32 PM
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I really do like the dynamic spread but I'm thinking defending yourself against someone 8 lvls higher than you (30 vs 38) shouldn't flag you for +16 lvls... If the problem is oor healing then make it so beneficial buffs flag you, not detrimental.

If you want the challenge of fighting someone +6 lvls above you, that should be enough, you shouldn't have to worry about someone +14 lvls above you... Unless you're healing/buffing high lvls then you should be ready to take the heat.

Now lets say you're lvl 25 and in comes this lvl 32 with his lvl 40 buddy healing. No doubt that 32 is looking to kill you, but you're worried of fighting back because that lvl 40 is just gonna destroy you. Wouldn't it make more sense to let you fight back against the 32 without getting killed by the 40 - which still won't give you much of a chance - but at least it will let you survive long enough in zone until you can call friends to help you take out that lvl 40 when you're ready on your own terms (isn't that supposed to be the risk of a high lvl helping a lower lvl?) otherwise the moment a lvl 32 fights you, the only option you have is run/zone which you still can't even do because you can't snare that 32 to get away.

With estimated server population, +/- 8 lvls is great because there will always be someone to pvp, but having that scale so easily and quick through acts of normal pvp is just a hellish time for low lvls. Perhaps i'm missing something but it seems like it will always be the lower lvl that will face the consequences of it.
(I am aware I am missing something, perhaps many things.)
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Old 10-03-2011, 10:35 PM
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lol this system is set to fail, people will abuse it the end.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:44 AM
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my 20 cleric buffed my lvl 6 shadowknight, a wizard ran by and nuked him
for 255 dmg...
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:45 AM
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so simple

make soldungb, perma, and guk no level restriction on pvp

every other zone +/- 8
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:53 AM
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Every other zone +-4. You solved it Fiegi.
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